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Solar Energy Makes Offshore Drilling Look Good
National Public Radio ^

Posted on 08/17/2010 9:50:07 AM PDT by cicero2k

California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger has set an ambitious plan that requires a third of the state's electricity to come from renewable sources by 2020. But a fight over where to build large clean-energy projects is slowing the green revolution.

Credit: Alyson Hurt, NPR One of these battlegrounds is Panoche Valley, ringed by rolling, scrub-covered hills. Located in California's rural San Benito County, the area was used mostly for cattle grazing, and it has escaped the notice of many Californians. Until now.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; US: California
KEYWORDS: ab32; alternativeenergy; calenergy; energy; sanbenito; solar; solarpower
So they can't even build a solar power plant in California. NIMBY rules. Care to drill offshore anyone?
1 posted on 08/17/2010 9:50:11 AM PDT by cicero2k
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To: cicero2k

Offshore oil rigs enhance the ocean view at night with all the glittering lights. Towering windmills for mile after mile destroy the country side.


2 posted on 08/17/2010 9:54:03 AM PDT by pallis
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To: cicero2k
Ya?
Well he better tell Feinstein and her green friends to get outta the way of that 500MW Solar facility in Mojave Desert!
3 posted on 08/17/2010 9:58:58 AM PDT by G Larry (Democrats: expediting the Destruction of America, before they lose power...)
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To: cicero2k

Lol! These people have no functioning neurons anymore.


4 posted on 08/17/2010 9:58:58 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: pallis

Windmills kill birds too. Offshore rigs in the Gulf of Mexico are teeming with fish and other sea life.


5 posted on 08/17/2010 9:59:49 AM PDT by Frantzie (Democrats are the party of Islam.)
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To: cicero2k
"requires a third of the state's electricity to come from renewable sources by 2020"

I remember reading about Japanese fire brigades in the 30's and 40's where someone bearing the brigade standard would rush towards the flames and stand at a point where the fire would be stopped. Often these standard bearers were subsequently memorialized.

6 posted on 08/17/2010 10:03:30 AM PDT by tbpiper
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To: cicero2k
"Everybody wanted to step up the pace in order to capture these federal stimulus dollars and to leverage the private investment from banks and from other kinds of investment," he says.

But time is running out — to qualify, projects must break ground before the end of this year.

A textbook example how the socialist federal incentives system distorts the marketplace.

Without federal dollars a project like this would never be proposed because it could never financially compete with conventional unsubsidized power producers.

So these “businessmen” (their main business is living off the public treasury) have an artificial deadline to start a project imposed by the federal stimulus program.

7 posted on 08/17/2010 10:08:01 AM PDT by Pontiac
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To: cicero2k

They say that this is “one of the nation’s biggest solar facilities of its kind” and will supply electricity to “about 120,000 homes”.

Hmmmmmm. 36 million people in California. Figure 4 people per “home”. means about 9 million “homes”. 120k homes powered for each of these type projects means that they will need 25 more like this to supply “a third of the state’s electricity”.

And they are having trouble getting permits & greenie approval for just this one?

Ain’t gonna happen!

Especially after the friends of the endangered blunt-nosed leopard lizard start up their lawsuits.


8 posted on 08/17/2010 10:10:19 AM PDT by BwanaNdege ("There are consequences for being wrong" - Burt Rutan)
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To: tbpiper

In the Movies - Invasion of the Body Snatchers - real people were replaced by duplicates hatched from giant pea pods.
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Arnold from being married all these years to a liberal has become a super liberal RINO by osmosis of Maria’s bodily fluids. You might say Liberalism is an STD.


9 posted on 08/17/2010 10:14:00 AM PDT by Surrounded_too (Robot machine guns and the Dirty Dozen)
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To: cicero2k

Solar is great, until the sun goes down. Anybody see a battery big enough to “store” it for the Rainy Days and Nights?


10 posted on 08/17/2010 10:17:37 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (http://www.thepatriotsflag.com - The Patriot's Flag)
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It just doesn’t matter. No matter what the energy source may be, enviromentalists will try to block everything.


11 posted on 08/17/2010 10:17:59 AM PDT by Avid Coug
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"It would be impossible to ask the animals living on the floor to just move," [organic egg farmer] Williams says.
12 posted on 08/17/2010 10:18:35 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Obama suffers from decision-deficit disorder." Oliver North 6/25/10)
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California's gone BANANA!

Build

Absolutely

Nothing

Anywhere

Near

Anyone

13 posted on 08/17/2010 10:22:10 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Eat more spinach! Make Green Jobs for America!)
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” [organic egg farmer] Williams says. “

Exterminate him!

Not for obecting to solar but farming organicly!


14 posted on 08/17/2010 10:23:22 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

http://search-ext.abb.com/library/Download.aspx?DocumentID=9AKK101130D0196&LanguageCode=en&DocumentPartID=&Action=Launch

Of course they have a rather short-term use.


15 posted on 08/17/2010 10:38:27 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Surrounded_too

Bad company corrupts good morals.


16 posted on 08/17/2010 10:49:02 AM PDT by tbpiper
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To: Avid Coug
It just doesn’t matter. No matter what the energy source may be, enviromentalists will try to block everything.

LOL. You're right. Everything.

So Californicators will, sometime in the future, experience kerosene lamps and cookstoves, just as we did before electricity reached rural Oklahoma (1935 in our case).

A hint for them: gas mantle lamps were a big, big improvement over kerosene lamps.

17 posted on 08/17/2010 12:22:39 PM PDT by Ole Okie
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120k homes when the panels are clean, and the sun in shining. Not at night (obviously), and less after the dust from the dead areas under the panels which receive no light or water settles on them. I just can’t see the economic sense of these projects. You want low carbon emissions electricity? Build nuke plants.

One of the few uses I’ve seen where photo-voltaic cells look like they might make sense is on top of buildings, where the electricity will be used to help run the air conditioning at peak times (like when the sun is bearing down full strength, and the roofs are essentially wasted space anyway. Particularly large flat building with large air conditioning demands, like grocery stores for example.


18 posted on 08/17/2010 1:37:25 PM PDT by -YYZ- (Strong like bull, smart like ox.)
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To: Avid Coug; Nervous Tick; Ole Okie

“It just doesn’t matter. No matter what the energy source may be, enviromentalists will try to block everything.”

This is the green’s energy policy:

They’re only in favor of energy production methods that don’t exist yet or are not feasible. If they ever become feasible then they will be against them.


19 posted on 08/17/2010 2:20:31 PM PDT by aquila48
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