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"There is now a market niche for not having Wi-Fi," said Bryant Simon, a Temple University history professor and author of "Everything but the Coffee: Learning About America From Starbucks."

1 posted on 08/08/2010 11:06:49 AM PDT by thecodont
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I would have no problem with businesses charging a fee for hanging out, nursing one cup of coffee, and using free Wi-Fi all day. People can go to the library if they just want free internet access.
2 posted on 08/08/2010 11:11:46 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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What a fascinating phenomemon of the free market.


3 posted on 08/08/2010 11:12:54 AM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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I applaud his choice. I added to my bussines cards and the like “We speak english” to rave reviews


4 posted on 08/08/2010 11:14:01 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom sarc ;))
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Heh!
Wait until they MANDATE WiFi in these private businesses.


5 posted on 08/08/2010 11:17:10 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Let this chant follow BHO everywhere he goes: "You lie. You lie. You lie.")
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The inevitable future.....

Will that be surfing or non-surfing?

Banned, techies congregate outside to get a fix...

New ordinances banning laptop use within 150 feet of the building entrance...

Villified as causing everything from the Ague to zits, techies huddle in small enclaves in basements and garages...

Full circle.

6 posted on 08/08/2010 11:17:32 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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I am a tech person, but I have no problem at all with this. I wouldn’t dream of sitting down and taking up a table for several hours with nothing more than a glass of water, but there are many who would have no qualms about doing it.

That said, I have parked near one to hook in when I have been paged...


7 posted on 08/08/2010 11:18:08 AM PDT by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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One of the best coffee house experiences was when I was in Japan, there were single tables with no sound old Atari games, but the most clever were journals on tables next to comfy chairs and couch's I was in the military far from home, I picked up the journal and read some entries from other airmen. There were a lot of entries in Japanese of course, but the writings were songs, poems, miss home notes. The place was always busy, but quiet, guitar music in the back and an incredible waterfall and fish tank under the water. Now I go in a coffee shop and cant wait to leave...music is loud, people sit around with their computers and newspapers like they are scholars looking for a purpose.....to relax is an art....something we don' quite understand in the U.S.
8 posted on 08/08/2010 11:18:57 AM PDT by Texas4ever (God is in control!)
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How long do you think it will take until SDS and other groups protest not getting free stuff?


11 posted on 08/08/2010 11:21:36 AM PDT by barmag25
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Makes sense to me. Exactly what I’d do if I ran a coffee shop (not that I’d do any such thing). I’d also put in cell-phone jammers. Oh, they’re illegal. Well, a Faraday cage, anyway.


13 posted on 08/08/2010 11:23:19 AM PDT by southernnorthcarolina ("Better be wise by the misfortunes of others than by your own." -- Aesop)
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With broadband, I don’t need Wi-Fi to connect. Anyplace with a comfortable chair and a table will do including libraries, coffee shops, and hotel lobbies. I do enjoy coffee and am happy to pay the proprietor for multiple cups. If they don’t want my business that’s OK with me.


14 posted on 08/08/2010 11:25:10 AM PDT by centurion316
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"There is now a market niche for not having Wi-Fi," said Bryant Simon, a Temple University history professor and author of "Everything but the Coffee: Learning About America From Starbucks."

I am always surprised by the ignorance and stupidity emanating from our "elite" class and their sycophants in the media. As a recovering restaurateur I can attest this coffee shop did not make this move in an effort to capture a "market niche". It was made because they were losing money to seat moochers. Someone needs to tell these sheltered Obamabotic fools people go into business to make money and not satisfy some esoteric need.

15 posted on 08/08/2010 11:25:26 AM PDT by mort56
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Seems simple to me... put a time limit on the users. Should be relatively easy to limit the time a MAC address can have access to the Wifi.

Most pay for sites have this anyway....

18 posted on 08/08/2010 11:28:05 AM PDT by mike_9958
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We installed APs in our Cafe’ and two bars but not in our resturant for this same reason.


22 posted on 08/08/2010 11:37:28 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Hail To The Fail-In-Chief)
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Besides FR, I just can’t understand what people do on the web that takes so much time?


26 posted on 08/08/2010 11:48:33 AM PDT by umgud (Obama is a failed experiment.)
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Most Goodyear dealers have free Wi-Fi. It's a better way to spend 45 minutes to an hour rather than reading old issues of magazines you have no interest in.
30 posted on 08/08/2010 11:51:51 AM PDT by bwc2221
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Even as the economy rebounds, some eateries are keeping the Wi-Fi off during peak hours.

I notice they've gotta keep the myth of a recovering economy going.

Not sure what the answer is to squatters. IIRC, J. K. Rowling said she wrote almost the entire Harry Potter series at coffee shops (or tea shops, as she was in Britain.)

32 posted on 08/08/2010 11:53:30 AM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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Pretty funny! I loved the painted-on wall outlet.

I think if it were my shop I’d wire a timer up to the wi-fi router, so it reboots ever 15 minutes or so. You get free wi-fi, but it’s crappy wi-fi...

But just like the internet and Obamacare....it’s freeeeeeeee!


36 posted on 08/08/2010 11:56:46 AM PDT by bigbob
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Googling brought this up:
“So basically, I spent $11.20 for nearly 8 hours of Wi-Fi. That’s akin to some of the fees that hotels and hotspots charge. No shame there; I paid my way.

I wasn’t quite as generous at Alexandria’s Buzz Bakery. Despite the delicious-looking red velvet cupcakes in the case, I stuck to two cups of coffee (about $2.05 each) during a 6-hour camp out. Honestly, I’m a little surprised no one told me to leave, though I did keep my mug where it could be seen by the staff. Definitely a chinzy move. I slunk out a little ashamed.”

http://caroundtheworld.com/2010/03/11/coffee-house-wifi-how-much-should-you-spend/comment-page-1/

Took a table all day, spent (not profit) $11 and calls it even!


40 posted on 08/08/2010 12:13:04 PM PDT by mainsail that ("A man will fight harder for his interests than for his rights" - Napoleon Bonaparte)
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I don’t get this.

Just specify a minimum charge/hour. Send a staff person around once an hour, to ask for the surfer to order something to keep connected. Put a sign up, indicating such.

The shop gets steady revenue from surfers, and everyone’s happy.

It’s not rocket science. Sheesh.


44 posted on 08/08/2010 12:19:13 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RR1fDL7x1Sg)
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4G will make this all a wasted effort..


45 posted on 08/08/2010 12:22:00 PM PDT by tje
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