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Filibuster Reforms: Dems push for rules change in Senate
Time Magazine ^ | 8-1-10 | JAY NEWTON-SMALL

Posted on 08/02/2010 10:13:52 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic

When Democrats awoke the day after the 2008 election to overwhelming majorities in the House and Senate, plus control of the White House, many imagined they would be able to accomplish nearly anything they wanted. It seemed possible that Congress would finish health care reform within a year, including a strong "public option" plan. A climate bill would sail through, along with immigration reform, the pro-union Employee Free Choice Act and an end to the ban on non-closeted gays in the military.

But the reality has been very different. Health care passed, but just barely, months behind schedule and with no public option. Every other measure listed above is a nonstarter or in limbo. The Obama White House struggles to pass even minor measures designed to create jobs in the sick economy. (See the top 10 knockdown congressional battles.)

What happened to those Democratic hopes? They have been shattered by the Republicans' unprecedented reliance on the filibuster, a legislative maneuver that can slam the brakes on even popular legislation. The filibuster allows 41 Senators to block a bill from coming to a vote by voting against motions to end debate (which need 60 votes to pass). Since Barack Obama took office, Senate Republicans have used the tactic dozens of times, throwing the President's agenda into chaos and infuriating Democrats. In late December, an exasperated Obama told a PBS interviewer that he was tired of seeing even "routine" measures fall to GOP filibusters.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: democrats; fililbuslter; senaterules
Gee whiz! Somehow I don't remember all these fillibusters. Have they actually occurred, or have the Dems just backed off when they know they can't muster 60 votes?
1 posted on 08/02/2010 10:13:57 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

They can thank little tommy d for this mess.


2 posted on 08/02/2010 10:17:22 AM PDT by Not now, Not ever! (Girlfriend suggested I use pelosi in place of swear words, A good idea, I think)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Since there weren’t 41 GOP Senators until this January, I’m at a loss as to how the Republicans managed to mount any filibusters at all. Could some Democrats have joined them?


3 posted on 08/02/2010 10:19:38 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Funny they can’t seem to recall the Dems using the filibuster for judges under Bush.


4 posted on 08/02/2010 10:19:54 AM PDT by IamConservative (You older gentleman ever sit on your testicles? WOW, that hurts!!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Harry Reid used it to his advantage when it suited him. (finger) to the Left


5 posted on 08/02/2010 10:20:21 AM PDT by misterrob (Thug Life....now showing at a White House near you....)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

When the GOP gets the majority the Dems will be screaming that the filibuster is the sacred protection of our democratic republic.


6 posted on 08/02/2010 10:24:29 AM PDT by Truth is a Weapon (If I weren't afraid of the feds, I would refer to Obama as our "undocumented POTUS")
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To: afraidfortherepublic
The hand-wringers at Time have a short memory.

How Robert Byrd Jr. created the modern filibuster

GOP May Target Use of Filibuster: Senate Democrats Want To Retain the Right to Block Judicial Nominees

7 posted on 08/02/2010 10:25:57 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

The filibuster was intended so that enough debate would occur. And then cloture was used to stop debate. The democrats would have a leg to stand on if Harry Reid had not started the practice of filing for cloture at the same time as filing a bill.

These bills have not been debated at all. They want to push them through without debate and if possible, without a vote through unanimous consent.


8 posted on 08/02/2010 10:28:20 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: nina0113
I’m at a loss as to how the Republicans managed to mount any filibusters at all. Could some Democrats have joined them?

At least 2 Dems were out a lot because of illness -- Kennedy and Byrd. I'm surprised that the Dems didn't push that their aides be allowed to vote for them, or that they be allowed to vote via phone, or email.

9 posted on 08/02/2010 10:33:13 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (Southeast Wisconsin)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

unprecedented reliance on the filibuster

BULLSHII


10 posted on 08/02/2010 10:35:47 AM PDT by Joan Kerrey (here's my checkbook and my car-keys, my credit carThe bigger the government = The smaller the people)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

OK, so end the filibuster rule. And when the shoe is on the other foot, and they want to prevent something the majority wants watch them squeal like stuck pigs.

The socialists want to have everything go their way, always. Never any dissent, no votes, just deem it passed or do it on a voice vote.

Just lovely. /sarc


11 posted on 08/02/2010 10:36:04 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (Democrats...the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy, and Sedition)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

LOL, the article glowingly says that if the dems retain control of the senate “as expected” then they can change the rules with only a simple 51 votes. I wonder how TIME would feel if the GOP manages to take a 51-49 majority and then THEY change the rules to eliminate the filibuster with those 51 votes. Do you want to bet the tone of TIME will change from glowing approval to stating that this is the greatest travesty in the history of the world?


12 posted on 08/02/2010 10:36:22 AM PDT by drangundsturm
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To: afraidfortherepublic
At least 2 Dems were out a lot because of illness -- Kennedy and Byrd.

Time appears ignorant of the fact that the cloture requirement is "60 votes to pass", not "41 votes against".

13 posted on 08/02/2010 10:49:12 AM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Continuing the Communist Party (formally the Democratic Party) push for a dictatorship with empty head nitwit King Obama for it's head.
14 posted on 08/02/2010 11:10:41 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: afraidfortherepublic
They have been shattered by the Republicans' unprecedented reliance on the filibuster, a legislative maneuver that can slam the brakes on even popular legislation. The filibuster allows 41 Senators to block a bill from coming to a vote by voting against motions to end debate (which need 60 votes to pass).

Unprecedented? The only UNPRECEDENTED use of the filibuster was the corrupt lying sack of S**T democrats using the filibuster to prevent an up-and-down vote on several of W's judicial appointments.

15 posted on 08/02/2010 11:16:01 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: afraidfortherepublic
They have been shattered by the Republicans' unprecedented reliance on the filibuster, a legislative maneuver that can slam the brakes on even popular legislation

What about unpopular legislation? Hasnt all the legislation been unpopular? Speek up, you leftist lackeys!

16 posted on 08/02/2010 11:26:40 AM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: nina0113
Could some Democrats have joined them?

Absolutely :-)

But you won't hear this from the Democrat Goebbels running the media.

17 posted on 08/02/2010 11:55:26 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (It's easy being a communist when you're rich.)
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To: drangundsturm

Exactly! The liberals were outraged at talk in 2005 that the Senate might change the filibuster rules for judges. At that time, Republicans had 55 Senators, and the talk was that a bare majority of 51 votes would be needed to change the rules then.

It never happened because of the “Gang of 14” agreement on judges, in which Dems. promised not to filibuster judge nominees except in “extraordinary circumstances”.

So we never saw the showdown over filibusters then. If Dems. retain control of the Senate after November’s elections, I expect they will try to change the rule with a bare minimum of 51 votes.

Politics affects how the liberals look at these things. When they were in the political minority, they were outraged that the filibuster could change to take away their power. Now that they are in the majority, they see the filibuster as an impediment to forcing through their liberal agenda.


18 posted on 08/02/2010 12:09:23 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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It never happened because of the “Gang of 14” agreement on judges, in which Dems. promised not to filibuster judge nominees except in “extraordinary circumstances”.

They just kinda forgot to mention that being nominated by Bush constituted an "extraordinary circumstance".

19 posted on 08/02/2010 12:23:19 PM PDT by nina0113
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To: afraidfortherepublic

the Libtards are very openly expressing regret now over the Gang of 14 deal. In retrospect they could have lived with a few more Bush appointed judges in exchange for “full speed ahead” on the agenda. This has become their #1 rallying cry....”The US Senate is BROKEN and MUST be FIXED!” I expect them to try something in a lame duck session.


20 posted on 08/02/2010 1:10:30 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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