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Journolisters debate making coordination with Obama explicit
The Daily Caller ^ | July 26, 2010 | Jonathan Strong

Posted on 07/26/2010 1:39:11 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Sarah Palin’s speech to the 2008 Republican convention impressed more than a few doubters, including even some members of Journolist, an online community for liberal journalists.

“This speech is gangbusters,” wrote Ari Melber of the Nation. “Her tone is pitch perfect.” Adele Stan of the Media Consortium agreed: “Palin is golden.”

The exuberance appeared to unnerve the Guardian’s Michael Tomasky. “People get a hold of yourselves!” Tomasky wrote to his fellow Journolisters. “It’s a very good speech with good lines. But there’s very little substance.”

Rebecca Traister of Salon wrote to say she was grateful for Tomasky’s message. (“This is a reassuring sentiment, since at the moment, I feel like we’re in End Times.”) But the rest of the country apparently didn’t agree. Polls a few days later showed Obama’s lead in the race had narrowed to virtually nothing.

Palin’s speech had been remarkably effective. This troubled members of Journolist. On Sept. 8, 2008, five days after Palin’s national debut, some members of the group discussed producing coordinated propaganda designed to wound Palin and boost Obama.

At an appearance in Colorado immediately following the convention, Palin had remarked that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac had “gotten too big and too expensive for the taxpayers,” a point that seems commonplace now, but that at the time struck some as controversial.

Ryan Avent, then a freelance blogger for the Economist, now an editor there, complained that Obama’s supporters were missing a chance to attack. “If we were the GOP, we’d be taking this opportunity to shout long and loud how unprepared Palin is—‘She doesn’t even know what Fannie and Freddie are…in the middle of a housing crisis!’….That’s the difference in the game as played by us and by them.”

Michael Tomasky responded: “So why aren’t Dems doing that? Just wundrin’.”

Luke Mitchell, then a senior editor at Harper’s magazine, asked Tomasky if his paper would be able to help: “Michael – Isn’t this something that can be fanned a bit by, say, the Guardian?”

Tomasky didn’t think it would work. “The Guardian? You’re kidding right? Remember the Clark County letters?” he wrote, referring to a failed attempt by the Guardian to elect John Kerry in 2004 by asking Britons to write letters to voters in a pivotal Ohio county.

Mitchell replied: “Fair enough! But it seems to me that a concerted effort on the part of the left partisan press could be useful. Why geld ourselves? A lot of the people on this list work for organizations that are far more influential than, say, the Washington Times.

“Open question: Would it be a good use of this list to co-ordinate a message of the week along the lines of the GOP? Or is that too loathsome? It certainly sounds loathsome. But so does losing!”

Ezra Klein of the Washington Post, the founder of Journolist, quickly jumped in: “Nope, no message coordination. I’m not even sure that would be legal. This is a discussion list, though, and I want it to retain that character,” he wrote.

Mitchell replied: “Fair enough, Ezra! The list is great at as it is and I didn’t mean to suggest anything out of bounds. I am still curious about the reluctance of the left media to organize, though. The message discipline on the right seems to be one of its key advantages.”

David Roberts of Grist seemed to scold Roberts for his idea: “Just read past messages on this list, Luke. Everyone here is a /journalist /or an /independent analyst/. Their job is to /say what they think/, not to support Obama. Suggest that they focus on more electorally helpful — and equally true — messages, and they will bridle.”

Yet almost immediately after writing these words, Roberts sounded somewhat less than independent himself, referring to the Obama campaign as “we”: “I’m not bashing,” he wrote. “I’m guilty too. I just despair. We’re going to lose again, for all the same damn reasons.”

Ed Kilgore of the Progressive Policy Institute, another supposedly “independent analyst,” did the same, even outlining specific talking points: “It requires no particular strategic genius or ‘message coordination’ to recognize that we and the Obama campaign have the next two months to demonstrate that McCain and Palin represent the status quo party, the status quo ideology, and status quo policies,” he wrote.

While other members of the group debated whether to coordinate a pro-Obama message – or, more precisely, whether to concede that such a message was being coordinated — Todd Gitlin of the Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism had already made up his mind. Gitlin, whose job is to train the next generation of America’s most elite journalists, wrote this impassioned plea on behalf of the Obama campaign:

“On the question of liberals coordinating, what the hell’s wrong with some critical mass of liberal bloggers & journalists saying the following among themselves:

“McCain lies about his maverick status. Routinely, cavalierly, cynically. Palin lies about her maverick status. Ditto, ditto, ditto. McCain has a wretched temperament. McCain is a warmonger. Palin belongs to a crackpot church and feels warmly about a crackpot party that trashes America.

“Repeat after me:

“McCain lies about his maverick status. Routinely, cavalierly, cynically. Palin lies about her maverick status. Ditto, ditto, ditto. McCain has a wretched temperament. McCain is a warmonger. Palin belongs to a crackpot church and feels warmly about a crackpot party that trashes America.

“These people are cynical. These people are taking you for a ride. These people are fakes. These people love Bush.

“Again. And again. Vary the details. There are plenty. Somebody on the ‘list posted a strong list of McCain lies earlier today. Hammer it. Philosophize, as Nietzsche said, with a hammer.

“I don’t know about any of you, but I’m not waiting for any coordination. Get on with it!”

In an interview, Gitlin conceded he was noting the “features of McCain and Palin most worthy of highlighting towards the end of defeating them.” He said he had never advocated “bending facts” to get Obama elected.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: jourbalism; journolist; lamestreammedia; msm; obama; palin; sarahpalin; waronsarah
No real surprises here, but we're politically aware.
1 posted on 07/26/2010 1:39:15 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Luke Mitchell... replied: “Fair enough! But it seems to me that a concerted effort on the part of the left partisan press could be useful. Why geld ourselves?

You couldn't geld yourself, Lukey. You don't have the equipment.

2 posted on 07/26/2010 1:43:05 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Eat more spinach! Make Green Jobs for America!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Evil leftys — they are the enemies of the American Republic.
3 posted on 07/26/2010 1:49:22 PM PDT by BenLurkin (Will must be the harder, courage the bolder, spirit must be the more, as our might lessens.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Todd Gitlin of the Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism ... whose job is to train the next generation of America’s most elite journalists, ...

It's indoctrinations such as this that are going on all across the country. And if you don't make it to graduate school, don't worry about it since the NEA is doing the same thing starting with grade school.

The 'lib elites' have become so emboldened, they now just come right out and admit their biases.

4 posted on 07/26/2010 1:58:02 PM PDT by mellow velo
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The Open Conspiracy, by H.G. Wells
5 posted on 07/26/2010 1:58:18 PM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If you can’t accuse a conservative of racism, just use the old “no substance” ploy.


6 posted on 07/26/2010 2:06:30 PM PDT by Left2Right ("Starve the Beast!")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Amen that Tucker Carlson got this list.

One question. Ann Althouse had one her blog yesterday a list of the 68 or so people on the Journolist and they were all White Jewish people, predominantly male. There was some discussion about the lack of diversity in Journolist.

Yet I thought that there were 400 people on this list. Were there really 400 and if so, is there a complete list of members somewhere?


7 posted on 07/26/2010 2:09:50 PM PDT by SteveAustin
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Breitbart has offered a $100,000 dollar reward for the full Journolist , with guaranteed anonimity of source. Last I knew it had not yet been collected.

JOurnolist keeps the public uiformed. Its actually a concerted liberal fascist version of censorship and spin, Joseph Goebbels lite. IMHO, they all should be behind bars for fraud and violation of the publics 1st amendment rights.

8 posted on 07/26/2010 2:18:27 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama .......yes.......is fascist... ..He meets every diignostic of history.)
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To: SteveAustin

Yet I thought that there were 400 people on this list. Were there really 400 and if so, is there a complete list of members somewhere?


Not yet. The major question is who was reading this list and incorporating its input into their reporting? The major conspirators were those who possibly never posted themselves.


9 posted on 07/26/2010 2:23:54 PM PDT by excopconservative
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

But is anyone talking about this travesty anywhere except conservative sources? CNN is all over this collusion, right? Sady, this will go nowhere.


10 posted on 07/26/2010 2:36:32 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Palin/Hunter 2012 -- Bolton their Secretary of State)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The message discipline on the right seems to be one of its key advantages.”

I must have missed that somewhere along the line.

11 posted on 07/26/2010 2:53:44 PM PDT by capydick (''Life's tough.......it's even tougher if you're stupid.'')
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You know how Rush plays soundbites of the media all saying the same thing about different issues ... is this linked to the journolist?


12 posted on 07/26/2010 2:58:18 PM PDT by bethtopaz ( www.rapturealert.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We all knew this about the media - this just confirms it. Bookmarked for anytime a liberal tries to claim the media is not actively liberal. This is not bias - it’s activism.


13 posted on 07/26/2010 3:03:42 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Bigg Red

True. This should be reported for the major scandal this is ... but who is in charge of reporting it? The very people involved in it.


14 posted on 07/26/2010 3:05:33 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Candor7

I’d settle for capital punishment.


15 posted on 07/26/2010 5:35:22 PM PDT by culpeper (He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people,)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Ezra Klein of the Washington Post, the founder of Journolist, quickly jumped in: “Nope, no message coordination.


16 posted on 07/26/2010 5:54:55 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: culpeper

Yes, being civilized, I would too. Duch though is marginally human.

IMHO he is demonic. A genocidal spawn of the hell realms.


17 posted on 07/26/2010 7:01:45 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama .......yes.......is fascist... ..He meets every diignostic of history.)
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