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Leslie Van Houten, a Charles Manson follower, denied parole in 19th try at age 60
Associated Press ^ | 07-06-2010 | LINDA DEUTSCH

Posted on 07/06/2010 8:05:47 PM PDT by Beowulf9

LOS ANGELES — Leslie Van Houten, the one-time Charles Manson follower long seen as the most likely of his ex-acolytes to win freedom someday, was denied parole Tuesday for a 19th time in the killings of Leno and Rosemary La Bianca.

At the conclusion of the emotional three-hour hearing, the chairman of the parole board, Robert Doyle, said Van Houten was not yet suitable for parole because she had failed to gain complete insight into her crime and its motivation.

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While commending her for her adjustment to prison and her work on behalf of other prisoners, Doyle and deputy commissioner Carol Bentley said the crimes involved were so atrocious and heinous that they must be considered in the decision.

"She does not look at herself to see what made her capable of this activity," Doyle said. Both he and Bentley said they were disappointed that Van Houten chose not to speak to them directly.

"It's been 15 years since I've seen you," Bentley said, "and commissioner Doyle has never heard from you."

Doyle criticized a report from a psychologist who he said accepted everything Van Houten told her and did not look beneath the surface.

He particularly noted that in the past, Van Houten has suffered from dependence on strong male figures who were able to control her.

He suggested she needs more counseling on how to deal with men.

However, he said the concerns for public safety are not sufficient to give her a 10- or 15-year denial. He scheduled another hearing in three years.

Van Houten, who last appeared before a parole board in 2007, showed no response to the decision and was taken back to her cell.

During the hearing, she read a statement apologizing to the victims' family "for the pain I caused" and saying she understood their grief. She gave them a private written apology.

She said she understood the enormity of her crime and makes no excuses for her actions. She said she has gained insight during her 41 years in prison that is helping her to understand "so it does not happen again."

Louis Smaldino, a member of the La Bianca family, spoke during the hearing of the unending anguish they have experienced and suggested that Van Houten should have been executed. He urged the board to keep her in prison and deny another parole hearing for as long as possible.

"Miss Van Houten is a murdering terrorist, and her character does not change," he said.

Debra Tate, sister of the slain Sharon Tate, whose killing is not involved in this case, appeared on behalf of another La Bianca family member, Angela Smaldino. Tate said Smaldino believes Van Houten should be commended for her growth but thinks her behavior would be unpredictable in a changed world.

"It's not a risk that most of us would want to take," she said.

Van Houten's attorney, Brandie Devall, highlighted her impeccable disciplinary record.

"There is nothing in the record that suggests her dangerousness," she said. "You have a record before you of reform and rehabilitation. People can and do change."

Devall also asked the panel to consider Van Houten's age — 19 — when she joined in the La Bianca killings. She noted Van Houten came under the influence of Manson, "who had a knack for finding lost young people and manipulating them."

Devall quoted one of the original prosecutors in the case, Stephen Kay, who said in 1980 that Van Houten would be suitable for parole someday.

"We now have three decades more," she said. "There is no need for more time to observe Miss Van Houten."

However, Los Angeles Deputy District Attorney Patrick Sequeira recounted the murders' savagery and urged the panel not to accept the idea that Manson was responsible and Houten was not.

"It's been said he turned people into mindless robots," Sequeira said of Manson. "But there were people in the commune who did not participate in the murders."

He noted that Van Houten chose not to answer questions of the panel at the hearing.

"Nevertheless, the real question that arises is who does this? Who joins this group after hearing the news of what happened at the Tate residence the night before?" Sequeira asked.

Arguing for her continued incarceration, he said, "There's just something about this woman, something about her that led her to cross a very heavy line and become involved in these brutal, savage murders."

Devall responded that current case law suggests the panel should look at "who the person is sitting before you today," and not base its entire decision on the crimes.

After the hearing, Devall said she will probably appeal the ruling.

Asked why Van Houten chose not to speak to the panel, Devall said "There's nothing new for her to add. She has said it all. This time the court won't be able to use her words against her."

Sequeira said he was pleased with the decision and felt Van Houten had not taken full responsbility for her crimes.

"She makes herself out to be a victim rather than a full participant ... I'd like her to tell the truth about what she did," Sequeira said.

Among those attending Tuesday's hearing was Barbara Hoyt, a former Manson family member, who said she had not seen Van Houten in 40 years.

"I hope my coming here stumped her a little bit," Hoyt said.

Hoyt said if she had not seen pictures of the older Van Houten, she would never have recognized her.

Van Houten was convicted of murder and conspiracy for her role in the slayings of the La Biancas. They were stabbed to death in August 1969, one night after Manson's followers killed actress Sharon Tate and four others.

Van Houten did not participate in the Tate killings but went along the next night when the La Biancas were slain in their home. During the penalty phase of her trial, she confessed to joining in stabbing Mrs. La Bianca after she was dead.

The Tate-La Bianca killings became one of the most notorious murder cases of the 20th Century and continues to rivet public attention 41 years later.

1 posted on 07/06/2010 8:05:52 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Beowulf9

Good!


2 posted on 07/06/2010 8:16:45 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: Beowulf9

I say “good” too!


3 posted on 07/06/2010 8:23:33 PM PDT by DefeatCorruption
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To: Beowulf9

Sorry Charlie


4 posted on 07/06/2010 8:25:40 PM PDT by RckyRaCoCo
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To: Beowulf9
Seems like a sick little game played by the state....Are these people on the borad angry because she is not speaking to them? So what?

She's said the same thing in all the other hearings...There is nothing different to be said...

Why not just eliminate the parole hearings for this person?

She sure in hell won't be granted parole....Is this just for these government employees on the hearing board to gain fame and notoriety and possible write books? Are they anger because the murderer opted not to speak with them?

Are they this petty?

5 posted on 07/06/2010 8:26:41 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Beowulf9

They all should die in jail.


6 posted on 07/06/2010 8:27:34 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: dragnet2

Here is an excellent breakdown of the Manson killings focusing most on Van Houten. You’ll get a pretty good idea of why she should stay locked up:

http://tatefamilylegacy.com/lvh.html


7 posted on 07/06/2010 8:33:15 PM PDT by Artemis Webb (DeMint 2012)
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Doyle said. Both he and Bentley said they were disappointed that Van Houten chose not to speak to them directly.

LOL... As if that would make a difference...Could it be these government employees are looking for some kind of twisted fame, and are disappointed the murderer chose not to speak to them directly and repeat the same crap she's repeating for the past 41 years?

Sick state game...

8 posted on 07/06/2010 8:33:48 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Artemis Webb
I know all about that...It's been rehashed for several decades...

Too bad Charlie just didn't stay in Ohio where he's from.

9 posted on 07/06/2010 8:35:14 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Artemis Webb
You’ll get a pretty good idea of why she should stay locked up

BTW, you posted to the wrong person....I never suggested she should be released...

10 posted on 07/06/2010 8:36:21 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

I’m sorry but from your tone and words it’s obvious you despise the parole board far more than the murderess.


11 posted on 07/06/2010 8:40:01 PM PDT by Artemis Webb (DeMint 2012)
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To: Artemis Webb
LOL! Then you disagree, and feel there is a chance the parole board would grant this murdering lunatic freedom!!

Lemme guess? Another government employee Ms. Webb?

12 posted on 07/06/2010 8:42:40 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Beowulf9
Here's an odd fact from the case. The La Bianca's dropped their daughter off at her apartment on the way home. She was the last family member to see them alive. Many will recognize that apartment building as it was the one from “Melrose Place.”
13 posted on 07/06/2010 8:51:26 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
Big deal...That's all just meaningless Hollywood hype.

What is more interesting is Charlie was a loser in Ohio, long before ever moving to California.

14 posted on 07/06/2010 8:55:06 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Artemis Webb

Susan Atkins was the worst IMO. She killed others and seemed to enjoy it.

All of them have no excuse for what they did. All should remain in prison for life.


15 posted on 07/06/2010 8:56:52 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Beowulf9

No way anyone should risk freeing someone as notorious as the Manson Gangmembers. Nothing good could ever come from it.


16 posted on 07/06/2010 8:58:50 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: Beowulf9

I feel bad for Van Houten. She’s probably lonely in jail. I think she needs to be reunited with her friend Susan Atkins ASAP.


17 posted on 07/06/2010 9:06:36 PM PDT by death2tyrants
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To: Beowulf9

“This time the court won’t be able to use her words against her.”

So they used her lack of words against her. She needed to justify a change in her status and said nothing. Dumb lawyer.


18 posted on 07/06/2010 9:10:25 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Good night. I expect more respect tomorrow - Danny H (RIP))
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

Boy is that an interesting thing. Darn, I never watched Melrose Place.

But another interesting fact from the case is that Sharon Tate claimed to have seen a ghost, and possibly her own:

“The heavily pregnant young actress was staying at a luxury rented mansion in Hollywood, whilst her film producer husband Roman Polanskii was away in Europe. It was there she had the unnerving experience of seeing two ghosts! It occurred one evening as she was resting in her bedroom and she saw the spectre of what she described as a ‘creepy little man’ She recognized him immediately as the former owner of the house, Paul Burn, a theatrical agent who had shot himself in an upstairs bathroom following the break-up of his marriage to actress Jean Harlow. Tate fled screaming from the bedroom, only to be immediately confronted by her own ghost at the foot of the stairs. She described seeing the spirit of a woman who was tied to a pillar with her throat cut. She had strangely had a glimpse of her own horrific fate at the hands of her killers. She was found in exactly this position following the attack by Manson gang. Her hysterical screams could not be quieted for some time.”


19 posted on 07/06/2010 9:18:03 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Artemis Webb

Good link. Bits of it are new to me and I’ve read a lot about the case.


20 posted on 07/06/2010 9:20:39 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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