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Hays County Texas deputies accused of excessive force against 80yr-old man and his son
Injusticeeverywhere.com ^ | July 4, 2010 | David Packman

Posted on 07/05/2010 9:43:09 AM PDT by TheMom

It was about 6:00pm on June 22, 2010 when Robert Threadgill, 80-year-old former member of the 1970's singing group “The Threadgills”, had realized that he forgot his fishing pole at a nearby community-property creek called Woodcreek behind his condo where he fished often and had walked over to retrieve it. While there, still on a community property section of lawn, Mr. Threadgill apparently got into a minor verbal dispute with an employee of a Cypress Creek Falls Lodge, who was on another side of a fence next to their property, about debris those employees would throw into the creek.

The Cypress Creek employee apparently called the Hays County Sheriff’s Department after the dispute and apparently reported that Threadgill was trespassing even though he never crossed the tall fence that separates the properties. Four Hays County deputies arrived in response to the call and, Threadgill claims, when he saw the deputies talking with the employee he walked over and asked them to come over to his side of the fence so he could explain what the dispute was about.

However, when the deputies crossed over they immediately told him that he was trespassing, even though he was still on the opposite side of the fence. At this point Mr. Threadgill’s son, Stephen, began to walk over to see what was going on when his father told him everything was fine and to just go back to the house. At that point, things took a strange turn for the worst when two deputies allegedly tackled Mr. Threadgill to the ground, grinding their knees into his back and his head while another deputy approached Stephen, as he was walking back towards the house, and apparently hit him from behind with a baton and knocked him unconscious.

A neighbor, who witnessed the incident, confirmed that he saw two deputies throw the 80-year-old Threadgill to the ground then jump on his head and back while wrenching his arms behind him until Threadgill screamed out in pain. He then looked over to see Stephen unconscious on the ground with two other deputies handcuffing him.

The neighbor then claims that he watched as the deputies dragged both Stephen and Robert then threw both of them between rungs in the fence so that they both landed face-first on to the pavement on the opposite side while their hands were still cuffed behind them. He says that they then dragged Stephen about 70 yards, while still unconscious, across an asphalt parking lot until his knees were skinned to the bone. The elder Threadgill claims that deputies told him he was resisting since he couldn’t get his feet underneath him fast enough as they dragged him along the ground as well.

While deputies tossed Threadgill and his son into patrol cars Robert’s wife was trying to tell her husband that she was calling their other son when she too was threatened with arrest. However, before deputies could leave, two Fire Dept EMTs, who weren’t called but were nearby and decided to stop, examined the two and informed the deputies that they had to be taken to the hospital before taken into custody due to their injuries, especially since the younger Threadgill was still unresponsive.

While no charges were placed against Stephen, who suffered a concussion, broken ankle, as well as back and rib injuries, a warrant has been filed for Robert Threadgill on a stand-alone resisting arrest charge while he has been recovering from a shoulder injury, that will require surgery to repair, in addition to injuries to his face and leg… but, so far, neither have been cited for trespassing.

The neighbor who witnessed the incident says he is “horrified that this could happen in a quiet little town” and that “there was no violence or threats until police arrived and, even then, the only violence done was by the four deputies.” Threadgill’s daughter says she’s worried since her dad now has to pay $1,000 bond on the resisting charge and lives on a fixed income.

The Hays County Sheriff’s Office has not responded to requests for more information about the incident from Robert’s daughter. She has posted the story on her Facebook page devoted to Domestic Violence issues and we agreed to re-post the story to make it public after she told us about it.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: abuse; badcops; brutality; donutwatch; seiu; unions
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Its called deescalating a situation


61 posted on 07/05/2010 3:38:23 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions $1 Halfbaked 50c)
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To: Comstock1

This is a discussion forum not a court of law.

You have a right to your opinion and I have the right to point out that in this case it is ridiculous.

I normally support the police and these stories are usually from the mother of the uninjured “youth” who was “turning his life around” caught doing something illegal at 2:00am not an 80 year old man who got the crap beaten out of him by cops at 6:00pm.


62 posted on 07/05/2010 3:39:51 PM PDT by Eaker (Pablo is very wily)
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To: Eaker

You are very likely right, but I still think more should be heard before people go rope shopping.


63 posted on 07/05/2010 3:43:44 PM PDT by Comstock1 (You can't have Falstaff and have him thin.)
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To: TheMom

One, why did FOUR deputies need to respond?

Two, what you wanta’ bet the lodge employs the deputies as part time guards? Something sure is up. I hope the old man and his son end up owning Hays county.


64 posted on 07/05/2010 3:44:14 PM PDT by Terry Mross ( I voted for McCain and still feel like I wasted my vote. Vote third party - same results.)
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To: mylife

Even the most obnoxious cons would respond to basic politeness. There were guards that delighted in being a-holes.

Another job I worked had me as the only white guy in a facility where a high percentage of the staff was Nation of Islam (crazy Louie’s bunch). We had some lively debates, but when it came down to it, they were just folks wanting to do right for their families, and stuck in a sucky place to do it.

I even had one stand up for me in a hearing where false racism charges were involved.


65 posted on 07/05/2010 3:45:00 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Live jubtabulously!)
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To: philetus
“did momentarily cross the line into the use of excessive force”

If the fella getting beat up to "wake him up" had momentarily crossed the line and defended himself by putting a round into the cops forehead would he be out strolling around free?

66 posted on 07/05/2010 3:46:34 PM PDT by Eaker (Pablo is very wily)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Well apparently there is hope in the world


67 posted on 07/05/2010 3:46:58 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions $1 Halfbaked 50c)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

When you start to screaming at folks adrenalin gets pumping.

You dont go on red alert for an old man looking for his fishing pole


68 posted on 07/05/2010 3:51:01 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions $1 Halfbaked 50c)
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To: mylife

More than we realize. Given the choice, most folks will go with their better natures.

At least that has been my experience in some very strange situations.


69 posted on 07/05/2010 3:53:04 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Live jubtabulously!)
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To: TheMom

That kind of force by LEO when their lives weren’t in jeopardy is inexcusable, especially against an 80 yr. old.

The comment beneath the story about LE training these days is more than a little bit alarming, if it’s true. And, it might be true considering what kids are taught in public schools and “institutions of higher learning”.


70 posted on 07/05/2010 3:56:05 PM PDT by LucyJo
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To: mylife

I never recall screaming at any of the cons. Usually, a dissappointed look and “Now you know what you’re doing ain’t right” worked.

Humor was good too, you get a guy to laugh at his situation in jail, and he’ll cooperate every time.


71 posted on 07/05/2010 3:57:32 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Live jubtabulously!)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Always stay trigger ready but but always use reason.

Only an animal would maul another man for no reason.


72 posted on 07/05/2010 3:58:47 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions $1 Halfbaked 50c)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Heyup.

There was no reason for this ****


73 posted on 07/05/2010 4:00:10 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions $1 Halfbaked 50c)
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To: Comstock1
I hope these charges prove to be baseless.

The hospital records will tell. One way or another.

74 posted on 07/05/2010 10:19:55 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: TheMom

“Antonio” Bain, “Juan” Long, “Jesus” Smith and “Benito” Ayrs???

On their momma’s side prolly??? ;-)

All kidding aside, this is just another example of the degenerative qualities of some law enforcement agencies, that give those that do actually do a good job for the communities they serve a bad rep as well...It is unfortunate...

The neighbor who filed a false police report should be dealt with as well...If there was no tresspassing to begin with, then bingo...No more neighbor problems...


76 posted on 07/06/2010 5:14:34 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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To: diogenes ghost
Do you suppose you could explain how a diving pig caused environmental wackos?

The pig and other activities at Aquarena Springs>Aquarena Springs were supposedly polluting the springs and the San Marcos river which flows from them.

Here's Ralph in action:


77 posted on 07/06/2010 6:48:33 AM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: diogenes ghost
I have to plead FReeping under the influence of pain meds for the spelling.
78 posted on 07/06/2010 6:52:37 AM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: ElkGroveDan
But the sign did say "swimming".

I stand corrected.

79 posted on 07/06/2010 6:54:32 AM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato

Messed up the link, see post 79 for same link.


80 posted on 07/06/2010 8:26:41 AM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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