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Are Climate Skeptics Lousy Scientists
slate.com ^ | June 25, 2010 | Michael Levi

Posted on 06/25/2010 7:28:34 AM PDT by PROCON

The White House says they are.

The evidence that we are running dangerous risks with the climate is overwhelming. In their zeal to convince the public of this fact, environmental advocates sometimes hype sensational studies and predictions that rest on weak or ambiguous logic. Every time they do, their opponents have a field day.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: globalwarming

1 posted on 06/25/2010 7:28:37 AM PDT by PROCON
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To: steelyourfaith; Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Denier Ping!


2 posted on 06/25/2010 7:29:34 AM PDT by PROCON (Liberal: Proof you can fool some of the people all of the time.)
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To: PROCON
"The White House says they are. "

Reason enough to doubt the veracity.

3 posted on 06/25/2010 7:30:28 AM PDT by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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To: PROCON
The evidence that we are running dangerous risks with the climate is overwhelming.

The root core of bad science is starting with a premise and shoehorning the data to fit that premise. And true to form, this idiot columnist can't even grasp the irony of what he has done here.

4 posted on 06/25/2010 7:33:29 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: PROCON
environmental advocates sometimes hype sensational studies and predictions that rest on weak or ambiguous logic

Mr. Michael Levi, I know this:

that the computer modeling for global warming is total BS. That is because a relevant computer model must recapitulate the entire chronology of climate change from at least four hundred millions years BP, otherwise it is a totally bogus construct of introduced factors to make one see what one wants to see.

Carbon Dioxide levels were far greater than 1000 ppm while highly developed vertebrates walked this planet, and something, not humankind, varied it.

Is that clear to you?

Johnny Suntrade

5 posted on 06/25/2010 7:41:12 AM PDT by jnsun (The Left: the need to manipulate others because of nothing productive to offer.)
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To: PROCON; Horusra; Thunder90; Dr. Bogus Pachysandra; Entrepreneur; Darnright; Nipfan; ...
Thanx !

$90 billion in US government grants dedicated to the anthropogenic global warming hypothesis creates a lot of papers over 20 years. Ever wonder why you never stop hearing about studies finding GW responsible for everything from kidney stones to cannibalism? Explains MIT's Richard Lindzen: "It's become standard that whatever you're studying, include global warming's effects in your proposal and you'll get your (government) funding."

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

6 posted on 06/25/2010 7:41:29 AM PDT by steelyourfaith (America should take a mulligan on the 2008 presidential election.)
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To: jnsun

Not to mention the fact that the climatic system is non-linear and chaotic, so even with a good model and relatively accurate data, predictions can be off wildly even after a couple of weeks to months...


7 posted on 06/25/2010 7:44:49 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: PROCON
One doesn't have to be a scientist, lousy or otherwise to realize that the scam on man made global warming is is pure BS.

I have been here 77 years and have seen hotter summers than now, colder winters than now, Rainier seasons than now, drier seasons than now. Cycles come and cycles go varying in time , intensity and frequency.

Studies by true scientists have shown evidence that it has been much hotter and much colder in ages past when people and industries were fewer or non existent. The high deserts have been covered in ice as well as water, with no help from man.

8 posted on 06/25/2010 7:51:08 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (If Obama doesn't destroy America, she is indestructible.)
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To: PROCON

“The authors establish their first point by comparing the beliefs of those scholars with the most published climate papers. They find that only 2 percent of the top 50 climate researchers, 3 percent of the top 100, and 2.5 percent of the top 200 are “unconvinced” of the basics of climate science. Thus they conclude that 97 to 98 percent of the most active researchers in the field support the tenets of anthropogenic climate change.”

If you apply sound scientific principle, the reports conclussions are statistically impossible. In other words, the authors choose to suspend reality. Not even Congress can have a 98% dis-approval rating. Although it sure seems like they should.


9 posted on 06/25/2010 7:51:41 AM PDT by 724th (Tolerance is the virtue of a man without conviction.)
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To: PROCON
In their zeal to convince the public of this fact, environmental advocates sometimes hype sensational studies and predictions that rest on weak or ambiguous logic.

The run of the mill "science" of environmental advocates has been crap since Rachel Carson. The basic things to know of anthropogenic global warming advocates who are themselves scientists are 1. they are scientists who have little or nothing to do with climate science and have accepted uncritically and at face value the conclusions offered by anthropogenic global warming proponents, 2. they are the proponents such as Mann and those uncovered through Hadley who have engaged in scientific fraud the more they have become committed to a certain point of view and the more that point of view and its political importance and financial remuneration have become threatened by those questioning the politics that have been the driving force behind their 'science.' They are basically the same group or type of folks that were involved with Barry Commoner in the great cancer scare scam back in the 1970s that had the same political objectives.
10 posted on 06/25/2010 8:01:07 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: PROCON
Considering that those selfsame climate scientists cannot predict the relatively simple weather within a week at most points on the planet, predicting the far more complex global climate decades in advance seems a bit daunting.

The computer models are just that, models. When reality did not fit their models, they corrupted their dataset by omitting evidence to the contrary. They destroyed their data, hid it rather than making it available for independent review, and refused to disclose their methodology in any but vague terms, meaning their results could not be independently reproduced.

These are the hallmarks of bad science, not the demand for the data and the proof or accountability for their statements.

In all too typical liberal fashion, the perpetrators are accusing the people who decry their misdeeds of doing the exact same thing they have done.

Of course, those who decry the AGW hypothesis have little at stake personally (our 'funding' does not depend on a political agenda), compared to those who will ever eat at the public grant trough as they lead us all into the next Dark Age, given the opportunity.

11 posted on 06/25/2010 8:09:34 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: PROCON
What a strange article.

He points out that the believers have a history of putting out bogus studies. He does a nice job pointing out the glaring flaws in this latest "study."

But he peppers the article with meaningless "manmade global warming is obviously real" disclaimers, with no proof, just to assure his journalist friends that he hasn't gone off the reservation.

Grow a set, Dopey, and look around. The baseless assumptions you accept like religious tenets are very shakey, once you start to ask for actual proof. Deep down he knows it, that's why he needs to repeat the prayers everytime doubt begins to bubble up in his head.

12 posted on 06/25/2010 8:19:23 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: PROCON

Henry Kissinger declared in the 1970’s, ‘If you control the oil you control the country;(which is being done not only with the input side, but with the output of a byproduct, CO2) if you control food, you control the population;(which is being done not only with the input side, but with the output of a byproduct, milk).

http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2010/06/epa_classifies_milk_as_oil_for.html


13 posted on 06/25/2010 8:22:50 AM PDT by steveab (When was the last time someone tried to sell you a CO2 induced climate control system for your home?)
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To: dead

“Global Warming is Real” is a mantra for libs. It is a chant for their faith. When plain facts that disproves their religion is in front of their faces, they chant all the louder.


14 posted on 06/25/2010 9:02:21 AM PDT by BigBobber
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To: PROCON

An Mars?


15 posted on 06/25/2010 9:26:04 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (I wish our president loved the US military as much as he loves Paul McCartney.)
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To: PROCON

The smart busybodies who want to tell everyone else what to do need a new reason why We're All Gonna Die. The hoax that they are selling, Global Climate Change, has been disconnected, or is no longer in service.


16 posted on 06/25/2010 9:55:09 AM PDT by Nick Danger (Pin the fail on the donkey)
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To: a fool in paradise

A full sentence would be nice like “I wants an Mars bar”


17 posted on 06/25/2010 2:53:43 PM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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18 posted on 06/27/2010 8:28:50 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (70 mph shouldn't be a speed limit; it shoud be a mandate!)
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To: steelyourfaith

Yes...but the science is settled...soooooooooo...we should pour 90 billion dollars more into this so we can settle it some more.


19 posted on 06/27/2010 8:52:42 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: PROCON

Whose the Denier now.


20 posted on 06/28/2010 7:34:19 AM PDT by dila813
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