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To: sam_paine

“If President Lincoln had failed in his just cause, then Richmond would likely be mobilizing all efforts to contain the spill today, would not have passed nationalized healthcare, would not have nationalized GM, and would have re-integrated slaves into society by the end of the 19th century without need for an NAACP as mechanization rendered the point moot.”

As a Yankee, I am glad Llincoln was successful. We are better off with a UNITED States. Where we have fallen apart is getting away from Biblical principles and values. We’ve compromised on principles and opened the door to the garbage you and I both object to.


7 posted on 06/23/2010 9:01:07 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: nmh
Where we have fallen apart is getting away from Biblical principles and values. We’ve compromised on principles and opened the door to the garbage you and I both object to

AGREED.

We are better off with a UNITED States.

Not so sure about that.

I used to believe that a united states was required to fight the Soviets in the cold war. But now I think that the North and South would've clearly allied against the Soviets, and that NATO would've been just as strong with the USA+CSA+EUR as was USA+EUR---if not stronger.

I think the precedent was set by the Civil War that the states had no power to reign in Washington anymore, and thus, the progressives had a unique choke point to ram their garbage down our throats throughout the country.

I see very important parallels in the Arizona case to the civil war.

The Arizona law is an important exercise of local experimentation within a Republic. Local leaders are trying local solutions to a problem.

But Obama is trying to exert uniform power for their desired ends from DC by force.

Slavery was not sustainable in a Republic, and it would not have survived after the war.

But Lincoln pushed DC's power by force on the dissenting states, and that was that.

16 posted on 06/23/2010 9:12:23 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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