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Cleveland plans intermodal transportation center to link key landmarks
The Plain Dealer ^ | Wednesday, June 23, 2010 | Karen Farkas

Posted on 06/23/2010 6:42:36 AM PDT by Willie Green

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To: Mr. Lucky

Boy you’re right on the money.

I inherited a house up there 18 mos ago and still can’t sell it despite cutting the price far below what my realtor says it should be listed for.

Cleveland has the same culture of liberal corruption as Detroit and Chicago.


21 posted on 06/23/2010 7:55:12 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: patton

Oh, I lived there in the late ‘80s, I know what you mean! I never understood the logic behind how the Metro lines were laid out with the Route 7 corridor being totally ignored. It’s the same situation now that they had 20 years ago, except probably worse. Too many people, too many cars, not enough pavement.

The irony is, here in the Triangle we have five different transit services in five different jurisdictions (Durham has one, Raleigh has one, Chapel Hill has one, Cary has one, and Triangle Transit fills in the gaps in between). But they work well together and make it relatively easy to transfer back and forth. I would actually like to be able to ride the bus to work. I live in urban Durham and there’s a bus stop two blocks from my house. And yet, out here in Research Triangle Park, where there are thousands upon thousands of temporary foreign workers, a place that screams for mainline bus service...the nearest bus stop to my 6000-worker place of employment is TWO MILES away. Even the folks here on H-1B and L-1 visas from India get a car first thing and won’t use mass transit. No demand, so they shut down the bus stops.

}:-)4


22 posted on 06/23/2010 7:55:48 AM PDT by Moose4 (November 2, 2010--the day that "YES WE CAN" becomes "OH NO YOU DIN'T")
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To: nascarnation

Maybe a high speed rail line linking Chicago, Detroit and Cleveland would be the answer. Yeah, that’s the ticket. Nobody lives in Detroit anymore beacuse it takes too long to get to downtown Cleveland.


23 posted on 06/23/2010 7:58:26 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Willie Green
I just happen to find libertarian worship of Ayn Rand to be offensive to my Judeo-Christian conservatve principles.

Yes, it's pretty obvious you hate freedom and spend much of your life thinking of ways to spend other people's money.

Too bad for you that collectivists lack any self-restraint...the country's turning "libertarian" with regard to utopian boondoggles like those you have wet dreams about...you're a fossil.

24 posted on 06/23/2010 8:05:38 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (One good thing about music, when it hits you feel no pain.)
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To: Willie Green
No, narcissistic hedonism is offensive.

Not wanting to throw my money in the toilet is hedonism?

I'd call it thrift...or prudence...or sanity...

25 posted on 06/23/2010 8:10:07 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (One good thing about music, when it hits you feel no pain.)
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To: patton
Can we agree, then, that AMTRACK should be sold to the highest bidder?

It's not our decision to make.

Current Amtrak shareholders* refused a buyout offer in 2002.

*Amtrak Common Shareholders:
American Premier Underwriters (insurance sub. of Am. Financial Group) 53 %
Burlington Northern Santa Fe Railroad 35 %
Canadian Pacific Railroad 7%
Canadian National Railroad 5%

If you want to buy Amtrak, those are the folks you have to buy it from.

26 posted on 06/23/2010 8:11:41 AM PDT by Willie Green ("Some people march to the beat of a different drum - and some people polka. ..")
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To: Willie Green
yep, they're not going to give up that government money.

Much easier than actually making a profit.

27 posted on 06/23/2010 8:18:24 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (One good thing about music, when it hits you feel no pain.)
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To: brownsfan
Cleveland has a crop of idiot Democrats to rival almost anywhere.

As soon as they find out someone (other than unions and politicians) will make a profit on this, they will kill it. Profit is a dirty word in Cleveland.

28 posted on 06/23/2010 8:19:21 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is <strike>fading</strike>gone.)
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To: Trailerpark Badass
Most conservative Christians would find your screen name to be a vulgar offense to family values.

It is THAT kind of libertarian influence that has damaged the GOP's moral compass and contributed to social decay.

29 posted on 06/23/2010 8:21:02 AM PDT by Willie Green ("Some people march to the beat of a different drum - and some people polka. ..")
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To: Willie Green

“Unlike Conrail, which was managed and operated as a business for profit and for the benefit of its shareholder owners,” says AFG, “Amtrak was, through a continuous process over the last 37 years, converted into a company not managed for profit, but instead operated to provide government-subsidized public transportation.”

Isn’t this what you advocate?


30 posted on 06/23/2010 8:25:09 AM PDT by patton (Obama has replaced "Res Publica" with "Quod licet Jovi non licet bovi.")
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To: Willie Green
lol, you're a silly fool.

Phil Gramm was almost right...it won't be long before we're hunting down collectivist jerks like you with dogs. As decent freedom-loving Americans see their wealth continue to dwindle, they'll keep it ever more dearly.

If you want to fund your fantasies, you'll need to send 19 year-olds with guns. Somehow I don't think that will be a problem for you.

31 posted on 06/23/2010 8:26:00 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (One good thing about music, when it hits you feel no pain.)
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To: bill1952
Your idea is akin to the “If we build it, they will come” principle of ever expanding government public services for the non existent needs of the very few.

No, this the "we need to build it because they're already there" principle.
The City of Cleveland has 433,748 residents,
and the Greter Metro area has 2,250,871

The “If we build it, they will come” boondoggle approach was most skillfully practiced by GOP representative Don Young when he chaired the House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee during the Bush Administration. He's the corrupt POS who earmarked the Alaskan "Bridge to Nowhere".

32 posted on 06/23/2010 8:37:00 AM PDT by Willie Green ("Some people march to the beat of a different drum - and some people polka. ..")
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To: Trailerpark Badass
If you want to fund your fantasies, you'll need to send 19 year-olds with guns. Somehow I don't think that will be a problem for you.

I embrace my 2nd Amendment rights for peaceful, defensive purposes only.
Those with low social values merely earn my disgust.

33 posted on 06/23/2010 8:51:57 AM PDT by Willie Green ("Some people march to the beat of a different drum - and some people polka. ..")
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To: patton; Willie Green

What Willie failed to mention is that the federal government owns all of the preferred stock in Amtrak and controls all functions of the company absolutely. The original common stock shareholders were private railroads who were issued the stock in return for the equipment they turned over to Amtrak. The government’s offer to buy the common stock was for $.03 (three Cents) per share. The railroads’ cost of accounting for the sale would have exceeded the proceeds.


34 posted on 06/23/2010 9:16:52 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: patton
sn’t this what you advocate?

I advocate upgrading passenger rail infrastructure to 21st Century standards. Same as Conrail benefited from government capital investment for many, many years.
If privatization of the rolling stock brings about greater operating efficiencies, that's fine with me.
But in the overall scheme of things, I think ownership/maintenance of our railway right-of-ways should be the same as our airways, highways and waterways.

Transportation infrastructure is a government function.
The private sector should not have local monopolistic control over mode of transporation.

35 posted on 06/23/2010 9:21:45 AM PDT by Willie Green ("Some people march to the beat of a different drum - and some people polka. ..")
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To: Willie Green

In which transportation market do you think a private railroad company has a monopoly (and which major railroad do you think maintains its property less efficiently than would the government)?


36 posted on 06/23/2010 10:39:51 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Mr. Lucky
(and which major railroad do you think maintains its property less efficiently than would the government)?

There are far too many to mention here.
Here's a link to a website devoted to that list: AbandonedRails.com

37 posted on 06/23/2010 10:51:29 AM PDT by Willie Green ("Some people march to the beat of a different drum - and some people polka. ..")
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To: Willie Green

OK, how does the abandonment of a line which serves no economic purpose equate with being inefficient? and why don’t you answer the question about which railroad has a mononpoly?


38 posted on 06/23/2010 10:56:20 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Willie Green; All

So it is ok to rob Peter to pay for your fetish..


39 posted on 06/23/2010 3:11:22 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Soccer was invented by European ladies to keep them busy while their husbands did the cooking.)
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