Posted on 06/21/2010 10:42:52 AM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet
We’ll be nice and only charge them for these costs that they incurred in California. In exchange, they get all the towns that are sanctuary cities and the towns that are boycotting Arizona. Hands off any towns that are more than 50% Conservative (that is, true Americans) those parts will keep the name California. All the debt of all of California will be transferred to Mexico.
The part given to Mexico can be called Kalifornia or Aztlan whichever they like. All illegal aliens will be sent there from all the other states and we expect to never hear a peep about Aztlan or the racist group LaRaza again.
Sound like a good deal?
Exactly!!
These are not hard-working people when it comes to getting their own govt to do something
Well, there are a lot of reasons illegals come here.
Money that isn’t sufficient for a citizen is a lot more than any of them could get paid in their home country. Most of them also have much lower costs than American citizens. The dollars thatthey can send back goes a lot farther in South and Central American countries.
We also know that a lot of men are leaving Mexico, especially, because of the cartel violence. The country is increasingly run by narcoterrorists who’ll chop you up, throw you down a well, flay you alive, machine-gun you, or otherwise eliminate you with extreme prejudice. It doesn’t qualify as grounds for political asylum. But it’s still a powerful motivator.
Plenty of our current citizens have ancestors that came here on the run from violence at home. There weren’t any US immigration laws until the 1920s, so a lot of people looked to the US as a refuge from trouble elsewhere. Better here than getting shot by Cossacks, for instance.
One problem with all of that is there is not enough gold in the world to cover all those Mexican debts, agree?
I’ve said this numerous times before... but...
My God, I despise this regime and everyone in it.
Quite so, Hilda, you stupid ----. However, illegals do not have the right to be workers in America.
If the existing laws on who can work were enforced, the illegal immigrant problem would evaporate. They'd deport themselves!
Fair by what code, by what standard? According to whom?
Yeah, in their home countries!
It is not a reason to be sad. It is reason to be ANGRY!
We have hundreds of thousands of citizens who are unemployed and under employed. These illegals are taking jobs that belong to Americans!
Our president is securing our border and he cares more about illegals than he cares about the citizens of this country.
“Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt. He therefore is the truest friend to the liberty of his country who tries most to promote its virtue, and who, so far as his power and influence extend, will not suffer a man to be chosen into any office of power and trust who is not a wise and virtuous man.” Samuel Adams
“The liberties of our Country, the freedom of our civil constitution are worth defending at all hazards: And it is our duty to defend them against all attacks. We have receiv’d them as a fair Inheritance from our worthy Ancestors: They purchas’d them for us with toil and danger and expense of treasure and blood; and transmitted them to us with care and diligence. It will bring an everlasting mark of infamy on the present generation, enlightened as it is, if we should suffer them to be wrested from us without a struggle; or be cheated out of them by the artifices of false and designing men.” - Samuel Adams
“The Roman Republic fell, not because of the ambition of Caesar or
Augustus, but because it had already long ceased to be in any real
sense a republic at all. When the sturdy Roman plebeian, who lived by
his own labor, who voted without reward according to his own
convictions, and who with his fellows formed in war the terrible Roman
legion, had been changed into an idle creature who craved nothing in
life save the gratification of a thirst for vapid excitement, who was
fed by the state, and who directly or indirectly sold his vote to the
highest bidder, then the end of the republic was at hand, and nothing
could save it. The laws were the same as they had been, but the
people behind the laws had changed, and so the laws counted for
nothing.” —Teddy Roosevelt
“There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism.... A
hyphenated American is not an American at all... Americanism is a
matter of the spirit, and of the soul...The one absolutely certain way
of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its
continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a
tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of
German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans,
French-Americans...each preserving its separate nationality.... The
men who do not become Americans and nothing else are hyphenated
Americans.... There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a
good American.”
For an American citizen to vote as a German-American, an Irish-American,
or an English-American, is to be a traitor to American institutions; and
those hyphenated Americans who terrorize American politicians by threats
of the foreign vote are engaged in treason to the American republic.”
-Former President Theodore Roosevelt, speech before Knights of Columbus, 1915.
“America’s core culture has primarily been the culture of the seventeenth- and eighteenth-century settlers who founded our nation. The central elements of that culture are the Christian religion; Protestant values, including individualism, the work ethic, and moralism; the English language; British traditions of law, justice, and limits on government power; and a legacy of European art, literature, and philosophy. Out of this culture the early settlers formulated the American Creed, with its principles of liberty, equality, human rights, representative government, and private property. Subsequent generations of immigrants were assimilated into the culture of the founding settlers and modified it, but did not change it fundamentally. It was, after all, Anglo-Protestant culture, values, institutions, and the opportunities they created that attracted more immigrants to America than to all the rest of the world.” —Samuel P. Huntington
Praying with their rosary beads that those evil tea baggers will just go away and allow them to hide behind the 'Rat pigs skirts at the gov't trough.
Facilitating the employment of illegal aliens is a federal crime.
There. Fixed it.
Wrong. Illegals have no rights.
There is no such thing as illegal if you vote democrat!?
Where are the Republicans in the House & Senate?
” Praying with their rosary beads that those evil tea baggers will just go away and allow them to hide behind the ‘Rat pigs skirts at the gov’t trough. “
Their natural habitat.
True, but that's our price and we're sticking to it!
The citizens of Mexico can dig for gold in the Sierra Madres.
it will give them jobs.
Mike Cutler has some interesting comments about this:
Hi Gang:
I appeared on a wonderful radio show early yesterday morning- the Helen Glover Radio Show that airs on radio station 920-WHJJ.
I have been on her show a number of times and it is always a treat to be a guest on her show. This morning, towards the end of my 30 minutes on air with her, she played a tape of a new U.S. Labor Department Public Service Announcement (PSA) that was entitled, “We can help.” The voice on the announcement was that of Secretary of Labor Hilda L. Solis. She was heard to tell the listeners that all workers, documented and undocumented are protected by our nation’s labor laws.
I was surprised to hear that announcement especially when you consider that the United States Department of Labor used to be responsible for enforcing and administering our nation’s immigration laws.
Let me make a few points clear. As an INS special agent I was angered and upset at the often horrific conditions under which illegal aliens often worked and lived in our country. It was the ability for unscrupulous employers to take unfair advantage over illegal aliens that motivate such greedy employers to intentionally hire illegal aliens. No decent person wants to see anyone exploited.
The argument could be made that by telling all workers that they have the right to demand fair wages and reasonable working conditions that exploitive employers, at least in theory, would have nothing to gain by hiring illegal aliens who could report unscrupulous employers to the Labor Department.
However, the problem I have with this announcement is that it minimizes the fact that illegal aliens are violating our laws by simply being physically present in the United States. Working in violation of law represents yet an additional law that illegal aliens who are working in our country violate.
Here is a link to the Labor Department website that includes not only the video of the PSA that Helen played on her show this morning but includes additional speakers who, like Secretary of Labor Solis, deliver their messages in both the English and Spanish languages:
http://www.dol.gov/wecanhelp/psa.htm
Another point to consider:
If we are to presume that the concern is the exploitation of illegal aliens, why aren’t those messages being translated into Chinese (Mandarin and Cantonese) as well as Russian Polish Hebrew and other foreign languages? Certainly there are many illegal aliens in our country who speak languages other than English and Spanish.
The point is that our nation discriminates against people from other countries and parts of the world where neither English nor Spanish are routinely spoken. This again goes back to the point of why the simplest and fairest way of having our government do business is to do so purely in the English language.
In any event, after viewing the public service announcements I decided to go back tot he United States Department of Labor website and see what that agency’s Mission Statement is.
Here is the link to the mission statement as it appears on the official website of the United States Department of Labor:
http://www.dol.gov/opa/aboutdol/mission.htm
I have copied that mission statement directly below:
Our Mission
The Department of Labor fosters and promotes the welfare of the job seekers, wage earners, and retirees of the United States by improving their working conditions, advancing their opportunities for profitable employment, protecting their retirement and health care benefits, helping employers find workers, strengthening free collective bargaining, and tracking changes in employment, prices, and other national economic measurements. In carrying out this mission, the Department administers a variety of Federal labor laws including those that guarantee workers’ rights to safe and healthful working conditions; a minimum hourly wage and overtime pay; freedom from employment discrimination; unemployment insurance; and other income support.
Please take out a moment and reread the beginning of that first sentence I have provided you here:
The Department of Labor fosters and promotes the welfare of the job seekers, wage earners, and retirees of the United States by improving their working conditions, advancing their opportunities for profitable employment, protecting their retirement and health care benefits, helping employers find workers, strengthening free collective bargaining, and tracking changes in employment, prices, and other national economic measurements.
The point of a mission statement is for an individual or an organization to spell out in simple and basic language what their intrinsic goals are. The Labor Department is supposed to promote the welfare of job seekers of the United States. Note that the mission statement does not say workers who are in the United States but rather workers who are of the United States. This is not an insignificant distinction. The phrase “of the United States” would obviously relate to United States citizens and lawful immigrants.
Why then is the Secretary of Labor making light of those individuals whose presence in our country represents a violation of our nation’s laws and borders?
Let us go a bit further. Title 8 of the United States Code, Section 212(a) deals with the issue of aliens who are ineligible to enter the United States. I have provided you with a link to the State Department website that enumerates all of the various reasons why an alien might be inadmissible. This list includes aliens involved in serious criminal activities, aliens who have been convicted of smuggling humans as well as narcotics. The list gives extremely detailed terrorist-related grounds for exclusion from the United States, aliens who have committed war crimes and alien who have committed crimes against religious freedom. These are just a few of the many law-based grounds under which an alien might be excluded from the United States.
There is also a section of this portion of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) that addresses aliens working in the United States. I have provided that specific section of law below here:
(II) the employment of such alien will not adversely affect the wages and working conditions of workers in the United States similarly employed.
Here is the link to the grounds under which an alien may be excluded from the United States along with the beginning of that section of law as well as the section that deals with the issue of labor requirements:
http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/ineligibilities/ineligibilities_1364.html
Classes of Aliens Ineligible to Receive Visas
(II) the employment of such alien will not adversely affect the wages and working conditions of workers in the United States similarly employed.
To view the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) by title, chapter, and section, go to the USCIS website.
Section 221(g) of the Immigration and Nationality Act reads:
(g) No visa or other documentation shall be issued to an alien if (1) it appears to the consular officer, from statements in the application, or in the papers submitted therewith, that such alien is ineligible to receive a visa or such other documentation under section 212, or any other provision of law, (2) the application fails to comply with the provisions of this Act, or the regulations issued thereunder, or (3) the consular officer knows or has reason to believe that such alien is ineligible to receive a visa or such other documentation under section 212, or any other provision of law: Provided, That a visa or other documentation may be issued to an alien who is within the purview of section 212(a)(4), if such alien is otherwise entitled to receive a visa or other documentation, upon receipt of notice by the consular officer from the Attorney General of the giving of a bond or undertaking providing indemnity as in the case of aliens admitted under section 213: Provided further, That a visa may be issued to an alien defined in section 101(a)(15) (B) or (F), if such alien is otherwise entitled to receive a visa, upon receipt of a notice by the consular officer from the Attorney General of the giving of a bond with sufficient surety in such sum and containing such conditions as the consular officer shall prescribe, to insure that at the expiration of the time for which such alien has been admitted by the Attorney General, as provided in section 214(a), or upon failure to maintain the status under which he was admitted, or to maintain any status subsequently acquired under section 248 of the Act, such alien will depart from the United States.
Section 212(a) of the Immigration and Nationality Act reads:
(a) Classes of Aliens Ineligible for Visas or Admission.-Except as otherwise provided in this Act, aliens who are inadmissible under the following paragraphs are ineligible to receive visas and ineligible to be admitted to the United States:
(5) Labor certification and qualifications for certain immigrants.-
(A) Labor certification.-
(i) In general.-Any alien who seeks to enter the United States for the purpose of performing skilled or unskilled labor is inadmissible, unless the Secretary of Labor has determined and certified to the Secretary of State and the Attorney General that-
(I) there are not sufficient workers who are able, willing, qualified (or equally qualified in the case of an alien described in clause (ii)) and available at the time of application for a visa and admission to the United States and at the place where the alien is to perform such skilled or unskilled labor, and
(II) the employment of such alien will not adversely affect the wages and working conditions of workers in the United States similarly employed.
If you combine the mission statement of the Labor Department and the provision of the Immigration and Nationality Act that addresses the fact that aliens who seek to work in the United States would not be granted a visa (lawful authority to work in the United States if the employment of such an alien would adversely affect the wages and working conditions of workers in the United States similarly employed.
This means that under no circumstances should an American citizen have to compete with a foreign worker for his (her) job.
How is this consistent with the public service announcement that is now airing around the United States and appearing on the Labor Department website?
Although we should be outraged by what Ms Solis had to say, we probably should not, however, be surprised by her public service announcement.
I have, on several occasions noted that on April 30, 2009 New York’s Senior Senator, Chuck Schumer, in his role as Chairman of the Senate Immigration Subcommittee conducted a hearing entitled, “Comprehensive Immigration Reform in 2009, Can We Do It And How?”
Schumer called for none other than Alan Greenspan, arguably the architect of the economic meltdown to testify about Comprehensive Immigration Reform. Greenspan actually made the following statement:
The second bonus would address the increasing concentration of income in this country. Greatly expanding our quotas for the highly skilled would lower wage premiums of skilled over lesser skilled. Skill shortages in America exist because we are shielding our skilled labor force from world competition. Quotas have been substituted for the wage pricing mechanism. In the process, we have created a privileged elite whose incomes are being supported at noncompetitively high levels by immigration quotas on skilled professionals. Eliminating such restrictions would reduce at least some of our income inequality.
His use of language was apparently intended to be as obfuscating as possible but here is the bottom line- if Americans had to compete with foreign workers for their jobs, the salaries that skilled workers were paid could be slashed! This is absolutely the sort of thing that the immigration and labor laws are supposed to prevent!
Do not take my word for it, take Mr. Geenspan’s words for it![snip]http://michaelcutler.net/
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