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To: grand wazoo
I wrote: "We have a shared interest in defeating the Muslim Brotherhood (Al Ikawan) and its many spawn and in ensuring that Europe does not go Muslim."
GW responded: No we don't. Our interest is in securing our liberty. We may wish that the other things don't happen, but that is really up to those other nations. Our i
So we do not have an interest in defeating Al Qaeda, as well as the Islamist groups in America? Not very "America First" to ignore those who are killing Americans and those who want to kill us or subjugate us.
As for Europe going Muslim, I guess you think that the US can stand alone, something it has never done.

I wrote: "And I notice that you failed to answer my point that Thomas's remark undermine the legitimacy of all settler nations, including the US. "

GW responded: Your only point is to confuse the interests of Israel and America. Likudniks only care about American conservatives if they can advance their agenda.

You understand that the United States was formed out of the 13 Colonies and is a settler nation, right?
Helen Thomas's comment attacks the legitimacy not only of Israel, but of all settler nations, in so far as she calls for the ethnic cleansing of it "non-indegous" population. If it is OK to attack Israel, as a nation where the settler population has histical ties to the land, then we in the US have even right to exist. Hence it is in the interest of America and Israel to denounce such Third Worldism.

And where did you learn the term "Likudnik"? Do you know what it means? Because, I cannot be one, since were I an Israeli, and I am not, I would be a member of Yichud Leumi, National Union.

I look forward to a cogent response that addresses all points.

20 posted on 07/01/2010 7:14:59 PM PDT by rmlew (There is no such thing as a Blue Dog Democrat; just a liberals who lies.)
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To: rmlew
You are very big at building up strawmen. I guess that is the only way for you to have a chance at winning an argument. Put forth arguments that were never made, attribute them to you adversary and then attack them. Very Saul Alinsky-like.

Securing our liberty does not involve attacking every rabid anti-American group or even country. Our resources should not be squandered in such wastes of time. Bomb Afghanistan into the stone-age and exit. Simple as that. I know that certain cretins will say it is not that simple, but it absolutely is. Those who want us to stay have priorities other than the security of the US.

Europe can handle there own problems. We already take care of their military defense; how much more do we have to do?

You point about the US being a settler nation is just plain idiocy. The establishment of the US and the establishment of Israel couldn't be more different and if you don't agree, you don't have any grasp of history. Discussing this topic further is a waste of time.

The term "Likudnik" is a pejorative for those who worship at the feet of Bibi Netanyahu. If you are kookier than Bibi then pardon me.

21 posted on 07/01/2010 8:01:54 PM PDT by grand wazoo
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