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58% Say No to Citizenship for Children of Illegal Immigrants(about time!)
Rasmussen Reports, ^ | Thursday, June 03, 2010 | Rasmussen Reports,

Posted on 06/11/2010 8:25:47 PM PDT by sickoflibs

Fifty-eight percent (58%) of U.S. voters say a child born to an illegal immigrant in this country should not automatically become a citizen of the United States, according to a new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey.

Thirty-three percent (33%) disagree and say if a women enters the United States as an illegal alien and gives birth to a child here, that child should automatically be a U.S. citizen. That’s what the current law allows and many believe it would require a Constitutional Amendment to change the law.

Voter sentiments are basically unchanged from four years ago when the Senate was considering the immigration issue. The Senate was eventually forced to drop its plans and surrender to public opinion on the topic.

On another aspect of the debate, voters overwhelmingly oppose allowing illegal immigrants to be eligible for state and federal government benefits. Just nine percent (9%) say illegals should receive such benefits, but 85% say they should not.

Most voters believe that the availability of government money and services draws illegal immigrants to the United States.

Still, there is a huge distinction in the minds of voters between dealing with illegal immigrants and overall immigration policy. Sixty percent (60%) of voters favor a welcoming immigrant policy that excludes only national security threats, criminals and those who would come here to live off our welfare system. Twenty-six percent (26%) disagree with such a policy, and 14% more are not sure.

These sentiments, too, have remained constant for years. The current support for a welcoming policy is similar to that found shortly after passage of the Arizona immigration law that stirred a national controversy. In fact, support for a welcoming policy has changed little over the past four years.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; anchorbabies; arizona; constitution; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigration
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While amnesty would generate millions of new socialist voters, doing nothing does the same thing only slower as all their children eventually get to vote.
1 posted on 06/11/2010 8:25:47 PM PDT by sickoflibs
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To: sickoflibs

And the 33% in favor were probably illegals.


2 posted on 06/11/2010 8:27:48 PM PDT by O6ret
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To: sickoflibs

The notion that kids of illegals are bestowed citizenship by the US Constitution is the biggest farce going.


3 posted on 06/11/2010 8:28:03 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; genetic homophobe; FromLori; Gilbo_3; ...

I just saw this now in a link at someone else’s post. I was surprised it was not posted itself.


4 posted on 06/11/2010 8:29:13 PM PDT by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: sickoflibs
Anchor babies was never the intent of the 14th and it should have been repealed years ago.
5 posted on 06/11/2010 8:29:43 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: sickoflibs
“Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.”

--Senator Jacob Howard, co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.

6 posted on 06/11/2010 8:31:22 PM PDT by pgyanke (You have no "rights" that require an involuntary burden on another person. Period. - MrB)
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To: sickoflibs
58% of voters say no.Zero percent of RAT office holders and candidates say no.It's hard to see a Constitutional Amendment being passed.
7 posted on 06/11/2010 8:32:29 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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To: sickoflibs

sfl


8 posted on 06/11/2010 8:38:47 PM PDT by phockthis
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To: org.whodat

Until that part of the 14th amendment is repealed the easiest solution would be to make all hospitals a United Nations consulate or something of the sort.


9 posted on 06/11/2010 8:39:23 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: sickoflibs

Fine make it retro active.


10 posted on 06/11/2010 8:40:57 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: All

ONLY 58%??? C’mon people!!


11 posted on 06/11/2010 8:41:26 PM PDT by jackibutterfly ( Palin is so under obama's skin, he hears 'Hail to the Chief' when he sees her.)
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To: sickoflibs

What the people want doesn’t matter (see healthcare, cap and tax, etc).

This is Obamaland.


12 posted on 06/11/2010 8:43:03 PM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: Gay State Conservative; pgyanke
RE :”It's hard to see a Constitutional Amendment being passed.

Maybe that is not needed. See: 'Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States' at #6

13 posted on 06/11/2010 8:43:08 PM PDT by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: sickoflibs

Wasn’t that amendment designed to insure citizenship to the freed slaves and their children?


14 posted on 06/11/2010 8:58:49 PM PDT by Tagurit
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To: sickoflibs; pgyanke
This is the correct interpretation:

“We have this common understanding of when you come here to visit, that you are subject to our jurisdiction. You have to obey our traffic laws. If you come here from England, you have to drive on the right side of the road and not on the left side of the road,” he said. “But the framers of the 14th Amendment had in mind two different notions of ‘subject to the jurisdiction.’ There was what they called territorial jurisdiction— you have to follow the laws in the place where you are—but there was also this more complete, or allegiance-owing jurisdiction that held that you not only have to follow the laws, but that you owe allegiance to the sovereign. And that doesn’t come by just visiting here. That comes by taking an oath of support and becoming part of the body politic. And it is that jurisdiction that they are talking about in the 14th Amendment.”

Then by definition—and one would think common sense—legal tourists here to enjoy Disneyland and illegal immigrants who broke into the country clearly do not fall under this blanket of allegiance-owing jurisdiction. Accordingly, their giving birth on American soil does not make their children citizens.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2509715/posts

15 posted on 06/11/2010 9:00:43 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: sickoflibs

That’s why Obama needs to PUSH THROUGH immigration REFORM. He KNOWS people don’t want REFORM. Other countries don’t automatically grant citizenship to children of ILLEGALS and neither should we. It is being ABUSED.


16 posted on 06/11/2010 9:04:49 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: sickoflibs

Probably a lot higher than that. Get them out and send them home so they can do something with their 3rd world hell countries.


17 posted on 06/11/2010 9:09:51 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Steve Van Doorn
Until that part of the 14th amendment is repealed...

Repealed? It wasn't ever ratified. It's sort of a complex story involving a horridly corrupt Republican Congress taking advantage of the turmoil after the Civil War, and I suggest people do a search on the amendment's sordid ratification process.

18 posted on 06/11/2010 9:30:27 PM PDT by ElectronVolt
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To: ElectronVolt

You are right the 14th amendment was never ratified but the courts ‘assume’ it was and has been making law based on that assumption.


19 posted on 06/11/2010 10:07:16 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: O6ret

Appeasement did’nt bring the Mexicans to the Republican party. Wimpy RINO’s strategy failed.

Some so-called conservative commentators brow beat those who called for strict enforcement.


20 posted on 06/11/2010 10:20:42 PM PDT by ChiMark
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