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12,000 Minnesota nurses launch 1-day walkout (unions)
forbes.com ^ | 06.10.10, | CHRIS WILLIAMS

Posted on 06/10/2010 9:56:33 AM PDT by day21221

12,000 Minnesota nurses launch 1-day walkout MINNEAPOLIS -- Outside Abbott Northwestern Hospital, what was called the largest nurses strike in U.S. history began Thursday to the sounds of "Amazing Grace" played on Michael Redmond's bagpipe. The 50-year-old nurse, wearing a red Minnesota Nurses Association T-shirt and green plaid kilt, said he picked the song because of its history as an old abolitionist rallying cry.

He played as night-shift nurses walked off the job early Thursday. BuzzHe said he sees a connection between the old fight against slavery and the strike by 12,000 Minnesota nurses. "The rally cry is that we're standing up for patient care and we're standing up for ourselves," he said. A key issue in the dispute was the nurses' demand for strict nurse-to-patient ratios, rejected by hospitals as inflexible and unnecessary. Sue Stamness, a cardiology nurse at Abbott for 24 years, said patient safety was the nurses' top concern.

"Nobody is listening to what we are saying," Stamness said. The nurses began their one-day strike at 7 a.m. at 14 hospitals in the Minneapolis-St. Paul area. Organizers said nurses would walk picket lines in three eight-hour shifts and by the end of the day nearly all 12,000 would participate. called the largest nurses' strike in U.S. history by both the union and the hospitals, the immediate effect was expected to be minimal. Hospitals hired 2,800 replacement nurses, called in extra non-unionized staff, reduced patient levels and some hospitals rescheduled elective surgeries.

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1 posted on 06/10/2010 9:56:33 AM PDT by day21221
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To: day21221

they average over 70k a year...I can’t see many getting to worked up for their cause in this recession.


2 posted on 06/10/2010 9:57:25 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ("The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants"-Albert Camus)
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3 posted on 06/10/2010 9:59:03 AM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: day21221

Every union member that goes on strike while under contract ought to be able to be fired when they don’t show up for work due to a strike. If they go on strike while not under contract, they ought to be fired as well.


4 posted on 06/10/2010 9:59:03 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Hypocrisy: "Animal rightists" who eat meat & pen up pets while accusing hog farmers of cruelty.)
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5 posted on 06/10/2010 9:59:48 AM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: day21221
"we're standing up for patient care" while we let them rot for 24 hours.

Fire them all.

6 posted on 06/10/2010 9:59:54 AM PDT by Drill Thrawl (Another day, another injury, another step closer. Are you prepared?)
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To: day21221

Unions, having destroyed manufacturing, are looking at one of the few remaining profitable industries in the US, and looking to leech off of that.


7 posted on 06/10/2010 10:00:13 AM PDT by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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To: day21221

A friend in an intensive 2 1/2 year LPN nursing program reports that after covering in class the upcoming changes coming from Obama care, all of the liberal and leftist students are furious to find out they will still have to buy health care insurance.


8 posted on 06/10/2010 10:00:35 AM PDT by listenhillary (You might be a modern LIBERAL if you read 1984 & said "YEAH! That's the world that I want!")
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To: day21221

9 posted on 06/10/2010 10:01:25 AM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: day21221

I am a nurse so please allow me to opine.

Nurses are historically overworked and underpaid. However, nurses typically reap what they sow. backstabbing & infighting have allowed the labor unions to engage in class warfare & convince RNs that only a union can make their life better. I’ve worked in two unionized hospitals throughout my career & I can tell you, all the unions do is take $ from these nurses & expoit them. Usual story. A union is not the answer. Period. I could go on & on about this but you get my point. Unions are BS & I wish workers would wake up!


10 posted on 06/10/2010 10:02:32 AM PDT by surroundedbyblue
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To: day21221

11 posted on 06/10/2010 10:04:36 AM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: WOBBLY BOB
they average over 70k a year..

...and they earn every penny of it

12 posted on 06/10/2010 10:08:33 AM PDT by upsdriver (ret.)
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To: day21221

Good time to rid themselves of union nurses?


13 posted on 06/10/2010 10:11:24 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: surroundedbyblue

First of all, I would like to express my appreciation for your dedication and hard work. I have spent time in the hospital as well as some of my family members. A good nurse is a great credit to her profession.

I must say that unions are, in a nutshell, organized crime.


14 posted on 06/10/2010 10:14:59 AM PDT by This Just In
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To: day21221

In my opinion, nurses should contract their services to hospitals as independent contractors. Trust me, everyone including patients would benefit from this. The free market would regulate and we’d get rid of the union thugs’ fingers in hospital business.


15 posted on 06/10/2010 10:15:24 AM PDT by surroundedbyblue
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To: surroundedbyblue

70k here in MN isn’t “rich”, but ALL the people I know personally who make over 70k a year in MN are also NOT in a union.


16 posted on 06/10/2010 10:17:06 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ("The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants"-Albert Camus)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

I get really tired of local “clergy” marching with unions and holding vigils.

Stick to saving souls rather than saving union bosses.


17 posted on 06/10/2010 10:25:41 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ("The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants"-Albert Camus)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

I love nurses, but unions are bad, mmkay?

Unions are scum suckers that take your hard-earned cheque and collect tolls.


18 posted on 06/10/2010 10:29:43 AM PDT by BenKenobi (I want to hear more about Sam! Samwise the stouthearted!)
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To: day21221

if they are not happy with the job, they should find another one. that’s the way a free market should work.


19 posted on 06/10/2010 10:30:19 AM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Drill Thrawl

Fire them.


20 posted on 06/10/2010 10:32:21 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: upsdriver

Is UPS unionized? Just askin’.


21 posted on 06/10/2010 10:35:35 AM PDT by FrankR (Standing against tyranny must start somewhere, or the future belongs to the tyrants.)
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To: day21221

Fired!


22 posted on 06/10/2010 10:37:58 AM PDT by Pietro
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To: upsdriver; WOBBLY BOB
"...and they earn every penny of it"
"Hospitals hired 2,800 replacement nurses, called in extra non-unionized staff, reduced patient levels and some hospitals rescheduled elective surgeries."
Not today, they didn't.
23 posted on 06/10/2010 10:41:07 AM PDT by astyanax (Liberalism: Logic's retarded cousin.)
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To: BenKenobi

I concur.They exist soley to elect demonrats.


24 posted on 06/10/2010 10:42:13 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ("The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants"-Albert Camus)
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To: FrankR

Yes, Teamsters, why?

btw, I am not a fan of unions


25 posted on 06/10/2010 10:43:09 AM PDT by upsdriver (ret.)
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To: upsdriver

Nothing, I just didn’t know for sure...thanks.


26 posted on 06/10/2010 10:44:39 AM PDT by FrankR (Standing against tyranny must start somewhere, or the future belongs to the tyrants.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

And replace them with......? There is a nurse shortage.


27 posted on 06/10/2010 10:48:52 AM PDT by upsdriver (ret.)
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To: BenKenobi

I never grant sainthood for people based on their profession.
I’ve found there to be plenty of rotten nurses, cops, and teachers .
Being in a union often seems to protect the most rotten of the rotten.


28 posted on 06/10/2010 10:49:12 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ("The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants"-Albert Camus)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

I notice that some churches have gotten so far off message, that churches are starting to advertise “Bible-based” sermons.


29 posted on 06/10/2010 10:50:43 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: day21221
If there is one thing hospitals monitor like crazy, it's patient safety. And they share those stats with nursing, all the time.

If the nursing union can't show that there is a statistical correlation between lower staffing levels and risk to patients, it's because there is no such thing.

30 posted on 06/10/2010 10:51:40 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (I've been ionized, but I'm okay now.)
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To: upsdriver
"There is a nurse shortage."
If there's a shortage, then walking off the job is even more despicable.
31 posted on 06/10/2010 10:53:09 AM PDT by astyanax (Liberalism: Logic's retarded cousin.)
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To: upsdriver

Not around here.
I’d bet MO-AR nurses would jump at $70 K + benefits.


32 posted on 06/10/2010 10:53:46 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: FrankR

You’re welcome. I’ve had my challenges with some in UPS management over the years but nothing I couldn’t deal with myself. UPS is quite successful in spite of union interference in the running of the company. Even though the drivers are unionized, a person would be hard pressed to find another group of employees that outworks them.

The nurses I’ve known are of the same work ethic. Maybe it’s just this part of the country (ND) but I’d prefer to believe it is true all over.


33 posted on 06/10/2010 10:56:16 AM PDT by upsdriver (ret.)
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To: listenhillary

all of the liberal and leftist students are furious to find out they will still have to buy health care insurance.

You Betcha! All along they’ve been promising their Libtard base that it would be FREE!


34 posted on 06/10/2010 11:01:40 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: All

I have an aunt here in Texas who is a nurse, and she says nursing is the worse profession a woman could choose.
She says the general public doesn’t know what goes on behind the scenes.
They have tremendous, life and death responsibility, they get low pay and are treated like slaves (forced to work short handed and for long hours) and dogs by the doctors, families and the general public.
That being said, I don’t know what the answer is to their problem. Maybe going on strike is the only solution.


35 posted on 06/10/2010 11:07:43 AM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: astyanax
If there's a shortage, then walking off the job is even more despicable.

You don't think many agonized walking off the job? I do. They maintained no one is listening to them about conditions, chances are this won't help. I'll guarantee you, nurses care more for their patients well being than do administration. Their complaint is not for more money, they are short staffed. They are tired.

36 posted on 06/10/2010 11:08:07 AM PDT by upsdriver (ret.)
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To: day21221

I know many nurses. Nurses get paid very well, and have very good benefits on average. Some of them work in stressful jobs, but they don’t have to unless they want to.
Them doing a walk-out just proves how utterly rediculous unions have become. These people only care about lining their pockets and nothing more.


37 posted on 06/10/2010 11:16:32 AM PDT by vpintheak (Love of God, Family and Country has made me an extremist.)
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To: upsdriver
they average over 70k a year.. ...and they earn every penny of it

OK, but anyone (union or not) who walks off the job with no approved absence, no illness, and no personal emergency should expect to be fired.

.

38 posted on 06/10/2010 11:17:30 AM PDT by repentant_pundit (O.fficially B.ecoming A.nother Mao ... that's our 0BAMao.)
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To: upsdriver

I have nothing against nurses.
(My mom is one, right here in MN.)
The unions are the problem.


39 posted on 06/10/2010 11:18:51 AM PDT by astyanax (Liberalism: Logic's retarded cousin.)
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To: repentant_pundit

Yes, they should, it is a distinct possibility. They had to weigh that in their minds. No one is entitled to a job.


40 posted on 06/10/2010 11:21:01 AM PDT by upsdriver (ret.)
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To: day21221

Ok bye. Fire ‘em. Hire someone else.


41 posted on 06/10/2010 12:41:43 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: day21221

Oh, and by the way. Any patient or patient’s family that suffers injury or loss because of this, PERSONALLY SUE the nurse that walked out and the union. PERSONALLY SUE.


42 posted on 06/10/2010 12:42:49 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: listenhillary
Long time for a LPN program....

Your friend going part-time?

43 posted on 06/10/2010 12:49:59 PM PDT by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: surroundedbyblue
Welcome to FR...

I know many nurses.....

Some are over-worked no doubt about it....but they put up with it.

I also know many nurses that have great hours...and make good money.

fwiw-

44 posted on 06/10/2010 12:53:39 PM PDT by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: Osage Orange

I spent 7 years as a critical care nurse before finishing my Master’s and becoming a nurse anesthetist. Bedside nursing is one of the toughest jobs for a whole host of reasons. However, as I said, unions are not the answer to nursing’s woes.


45 posted on 06/10/2010 12:59:20 PM PDT by surroundedbyblue
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To: surroundedbyblue
I've worked critical care and ER now for 20 yrs.

Lot's depends on where you work..and who you work for.

Congrats on your degree....

Good luck!!

46 posted on 06/10/2010 1:11:32 PM PDT by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%
At a pro-union vigil Wednesday night at St. Matthew's Lutheran Church in St. Paul, nurses and lawmakers prayed for the safety of the patients and the resolve of the striking nurses.

The vigil was organized by SEIU, a union representing other workers and health care providers in Twin Cities hospitals. "What's the greater sin?" asked Tee McClenty, executive vice president of SEIU Healthcare Minnesota. "Speaking out for patient care (and leaving the bedside) or staying quiet while the problem festers?"

http://www.twincities.com/ci_15264284?nclick_check=1

47 posted on 06/10/2010 1:17:03 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (drain the swamp! ( then napalm it and pave it over ))
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To: Osage Orange

ER.....fun in the middle of the night ;)

Bless you for your years of caring. Sometimes it’s rewarding, other times it’s trying, but it’s always for the love of our fellow human beings.

I’ve been a CRNA now for 5 years. I love it! And I have immense respect for our collegues @ the bedside saddled with enormous patient assignments. I hope we find a way to advance our profession while increasing the quality of care for our patients. Unfortuantely, I do believe with Obamacare, tough times are ahead for us all, both patients and providers.


48 posted on 06/10/2010 1:42:13 PM PDT by surroundedbyblue
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To: surroundedbyblue

During my long working life=over 53 years total=I have had to join 5 different unions. Some of that work was blue collar, most of it was white collar.

I found that those of us who had incentive & motivation, got taken aside & told to stop working so hard. “We were messing up the expectations of the company which the union had worked hard to hold down in individual production”.

I once worked for a fairly large So Calif grocery chain which no longer exists. They had 72 stores, & I worked in the office with 21 others, processing what was then called “DSD”-direct store delivery. Bread, milk, & other perishables were sent directly to the stores, & we processed the invoices on a 5 day a week basis for the 7 days a week of these deliveries.

Of those 72 stores, I personally did the 7 largest stores, with the most volume. The other 21 processed the paperwork for the remaining 65 stores.

I got ‘talked to’ 3 different times in the bathroom by the ‘union steward’. I was stunned. This was against everything I had ever been taught about doing the best I could do. Finally, the union applied enough pressure to the company that I was fired on Friday, Nov 11, 1966. I was told it was because I was being ‘too disruptive’. I was 27.

That was a hard lesson.

After that- I shunned jobs that were union. By the time I was 37, I went out on my own & have been self-employed ever since.

Unions have lost their original purpose.

They now don’t protect the worker so much as they break the back of the employer.

Some day, people are going to figure out that more people might have jobs in the first place if the unions were not involved.


49 posted on 06/10/2010 1:56:33 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: listenhillary

all of the liberal and leftist students are furious to find out they will still have to buy health care insurance.”

Payback is a beeeaatch.


50 posted on 06/10/2010 1:57:10 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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