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Big Risk: $1.2 Quadrillion Derivatives Market Dwarfs World GDP (Anyone understand the risk?)
Daily Finance ^ | 06/09/2010 | Peter Cohan

Posted on 06/09/2010 12:36:11 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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ABOUT THE AUTHOR :

Peter Cohan is a columnist for DailyFinance. He is president of Peter S. Cohan & Associates, a management consulting and venture capital firm. His ninth book, co-authored with Professor U. Srinivasa Rangan, is Capital Rising: How Global Capital Flows are Changing Business Systems All Over the World. The Achiever Newsletter ranked his eighth book, You Can't Order Change: Lessons from Jim McNerney's turnaround at Boeing, as the #1 business book of 2009. He teaches business strategy to undergraduate and MBA students at Babson College and has also taught at Stanford, MIT, Columbia, and the University of Hong Kong. He has appeared on ABC's "Good Morning America," CNBC, CNN, Fox Business News and the Boston ABC and CBS affiliates. He has been quoted in The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, Bloomberg News, Time, Newsweek, Fortune, and Business Week.

1 posted on 06/09/2010 12:36:12 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
I bet some cool-aide drinking republican will be along shortly and say barney the queer did it.
2 posted on 06/09/2010 12:39:12 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: SeekAndFind

No one ‘understands’ the risks. It’s just some have the patter down better. The narrative, the story.


3 posted on 06/09/2010 12:40:46 PM PDT by Leisler ("Over time they create a legal system that plunders and a moral code that glorifies it." F. Bastiat)
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To: org.whodat

I bet some troll will be along shortly to imply that Republicans did it.


4 posted on 06/09/2010 12:41:02 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: SeekAndFind

“it’s unregulated”

false.


5 posted on 06/09/2010 12:41:56 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: SeekAndFind

Don’t be telling the gangsta’s in this thugocracy about quadrillions. They’ll be wanting to spend it, and borrow some more.


6 posted on 06/09/2010 12:42:03 PM PDT by pallis
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To: SeekAndFind
Deregulate it all. Don't pretend that the government has any control over it, because it doesn't. Any time they put in rules, others put in strategies to benefit from or counter the rules, and we get back to the start, with more people demanding regulating the market.

End it. No bank account insurance, tell people ‘Hey, you wanna go toss your money around, sure, just don't come crying to us when it all gets scammed away from you.’

7 posted on 06/09/2010 12:44:12 PM PDT by kingu (Favorite Sticker: Lost hope, and Obama took my change.)
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To: SeekAndFind

So what happens if these derivatives blow up, and there are losses which exceed world GDP? Every transaction has a winner and a loser so let’s just say for the sake of a strawman argument with a scary bogeyman, that George Soros is the one guy who wins and is owed more than world GDP. How does he collect? Will governments commit suicide by enforcing the payments and destroying their own economies and industries or will they tell Soros to pound sand?


8 posted on 06/09/2010 12:45:24 PM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Who is John Galt?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Why scam trillions when you can scam... quadrillions?
9 posted on 06/09/2010 12:46:25 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: pallis

I tried once to explain this concept of chaining of derivatives to the guy who cleans up our office ( a great black guy to talk to ), and tried to let him appreciate how difficult it is to determine how much one insitution owes another when the whole thing collapses.

His response to me was this : “Why not start all over and let nobody owe nobody nuthin’ ?”


10 posted on 06/09/2010 12:47:46 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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This is a scary story.

What I am even more scared about is that Obama might read it and find out what comes after a trillion.

11 posted on 06/09/2010 12:50:11 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: SeekAndFind; blam; FromLori
All-this-fluff-and-not-a-single-mention-of-how-this-is-only-possible-via-fiat-currency-and-central-banks ping.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

12 posted on 06/09/2010 12:50:47 PM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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“Why not start all over and let nobody owe nobody nuthin’ ?”

Wise beyond his job description. That probably IS what will happen. Everyone will be bankrupt.

13 posted on 06/09/2010 12:52:37 PM PDT by 21twelve ( UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES MY ARSE: "..now begin the work of remaking America."-Obama, 1/20/09)
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To: ClearCase_guy

My bet is on the Brain Dead Liberal Free Trade Globalist....who loves the UN, WTO, Communist China and George Soros more than he loves America....tells us “how great derivatives are”....especially when they are 20 X the worth of the entire wealth on the Globe


14 posted on 06/09/2010 12:52:53 PM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (JD for Senate ..... jdforsenate.com. You either voting for JD, or voting for the Liberal...)
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To: org.whodat

Interesting observation.


15 posted on 06/09/2010 12:58:34 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: The Comedian

All-this-fluff-and-not-a-single-mention-of-how-this-is-only-possible-via-fiat-currency-and-central-banks ping.>>>>>>

The fiat currencies of all developed countries are highly leveraged at this point. This mountain of derivatives takes these currencies and builds on them, leveraging them even further.

Very few derivatives have anything to do with real wealth creation. Commodity futures contracts are very simple derivatives that at least have something to do with cotton or soybeans


16 posted on 06/09/2010 1:01:47 PM PDT by dennisw (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid - Gen Eisenhower)
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To: SeekAndFind
His response to me was this : “Why not start all over and let nobody owe nobody nuthin’ ?”

A very Old Testament concept called Jubilee.

17 posted on 06/09/2010 1:03:38 PM PDT by Disambiguator (Progressivism, Socialism, Marxism, Communism - it's all shades of black.)
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To: SeekAndFind

What happens if you add in all the action on the Lakers’ game?


18 posted on 06/09/2010 1:03:41 PM PDT by Defiant (Obama hawking Special K-- www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rDJdHQspuI)
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To: Disambiguator
A very Old Testament concept called Jubilee.

Tell me more. I think that is where it will end up, much as Romans probably lost both their property and their debts around 476 AD.

19 posted on 06/09/2010 1:05:12 PM PDT by Defiant (Obama hawking Special K-- www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rDJdHQspuI)
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To: SeekAndFind

Jubilee!


20 posted on 06/09/2010 1:05:46 PM PDT by griswold3 (Barack Obama’s First Law of Leadership: “I just work here.”)
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