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Documents Show Early Worries About Safety of Rig
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/30/us/30rig.html ^

Posted on 05/29/2010 10:26:29 PM PDT by Java4Jay

Game over. The New York Times has the smoking gun. BP internal documents show they knew the risk of using thin casing in high pressure, lied to MMS.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bp; deephorz; deepwaterhorizon; energy; offshore; oil; oilleak; oilspill
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“Nobody believed there was going to be a safety issue"
1 posted on 05/29/2010 10:26:29 PM PDT by Java4Jay
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To: Java4Jay

NY Times? 10lb bag of Morton’s required.


2 posted on 05/29/2010 10:31:19 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Java4Jay

I think that in the future, any deep sea drilling should be done when a relief well is ready to go in the case of an accident. At least machinery should be in position to begin immediately. We can’t have more of these disasters. Companies should be ready to tap relief wells in case of a spill within a few days of an accident.


3 posted on 05/29/2010 10:34:02 PM PDT by ChurtleDawg (voting only encourages them)
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To: pissant

Yeah. Not seeing any smoking guns, just regular back and forth about a very deep operation.


4 posted on 05/29/2010 10:34:24 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: ChurtleDawg

Might as well not drill then because that would likely kill your profits, especially in deep water.


5 posted on 05/29/2010 10:35:38 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: Java4Jay
Two comments.

1. This is the NYT covering for their chosen messiah.

2. All progress involves risk. To avoid risk is to avoid progress and the betterment of mankind. Sadly, risk avoidance in the private sector is something the dems, and especially this administration, cannot stand.

6 posted on 05/29/2010 10:35:41 PM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: pissant

Reread the story. It was written to absolve the regulatory folks, imo.


7 posted on 05/29/2010 10:36:59 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: mlocher
Sadly, risk avoidance in the private sector is something the dems, and especially this administration, cannot stand.

Sadly, risk avoidance in the private sector is something the dems, and especially this administration, cannot stand. [correction: Ed.]

8 posted on 05/29/2010 10:37:41 PM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: ChurtleDawg
I think that in the future, any deep sea drilling should be done when a relief well is ready to go in the case of an accident.

A relief well is a well, so by that logic before drilling a relief well you'd first need to drill a relief well for the relief well, and so on.

9 posted on 05/29/2010 10:38:19 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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Obama’s moratorium on drilling would technically mean no relief well could be drilled.


10 posted on 05/29/2010 10:41:11 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: mlocher

Good points ... and

#3. Any internal emails with sufficient content of back-and-forth can be selectively presented / edited to make any viewpoint prevalent.


11 posted on 05/29/2010 10:43:38 PM PDT by WOSG (OPERATION RESTORE AMERICAN FREEDOM - NOVEMBER, 2010 - DO YOUR PART!)
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Obama’s moratorium on drilling would technically mean no relief well could be drilled.

Interesting take.

12 posted on 05/29/2010 10:45:46 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: SeeSharp

but it wouldn’t be an open well being pumped. It would be partially completed, and it could be “turned on” in the event the main well was leaking.


13 posted on 05/29/2010 10:52:55 PM PDT by ChurtleDawg (voting only encourages them)
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To: ltc8k6

it would take a lot, I mean a lot, of drilling to put a major dent in profits for a major oil company. They have a lot of money.


14 posted on 05/29/2010 10:53:51 PM PDT by ChurtleDawg (voting only encourages them)
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To: ltc8k6
Yeah. Not seeing any smoking guns, just regular back and forth about a very deep operation.

Exactly. Every operation for anything has this.

15 posted on 05/29/2010 11:01:07 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Everyone needs valid ID except illegal aliens and the President - only in America)
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To: Java4Jay
How many government officials from the Obama administration knew about this and signed off on it ?
16 posted on 05/29/2010 11:04:27 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: ChurtleDawg

I see no need to require secondary wells. Had BP and Transocean simply followed procedure and abided by the regulations, this wouldn’t have happened. Why require a secondary well so they can ignore procedures and regs and cause double trouble?

Just follow the rules and regs the first time instead of trying to get around them.


17 posted on 05/29/2010 11:06:36 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Honesty, Character, & Loyalty still matter)
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To: Java4Jay

NY Times it is still around i thought the ole grey lady died as it is near or in bankruptcy. Is anything that the Ny Times writes, even capable of wrapping up dead fish in. Lets ask Obozo the Muslim Clown in Washington DC where the other liberal rag the washington Compost is delivered. Any news the is not fit to print is coming from the Times and the Compost. better get your subscription to the Globe, Enquirer and Raeders Digest because the Grey Lady and the Compost are no longer fit to wrap fish in. the dead fish get up and swim out of the paper.


18 posted on 05/29/2010 11:09:50 PM PDT by hondact200 ( Lincoln Freed the Enslaved. Obama Enslaves the Free. Obama is Americas Greatest Threat)
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To: ChurtleDawg

Are you speaking with actual inside knowledge or just making crap up?


19 posted on 05/29/2010 11:10:13 PM PDT by TheZMan (Just secede and get it over with. No love lost on either side. Cya.)
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To: ChurtleDawg
You would have exactly the same down-hole pressure and formation issues in the relief well that you have in the "real" well. Suppose they were to reach TD with a pre-relief well and do so without encountering any problems. Would you still have them drill a second well? Why?

Oil prospecting is not ever going to be completely safe and sometimes catastrophic events like this are going to happen. The best course of action is to let the oil company's stock holders and insurance carriers decide what levels of risk are acceptable.

20 posted on 05/29/2010 11:11:54 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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