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Rand Paul on Abortion (Libertarians attacking Paul for being too Pro-Life)
Reason ^ | May 26, 2010 | Jacob Sullum

Posted on 05/26/2010 2:25:51 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist

Rand Paul on Abortion
Jacob Sullum | May 26, 2010

Let's take a breather from the heated argument over Rand Paul's position on the Civil Rights Act and instead discuss something completely uncontroversial: Rand Paul's position on the Life at Conception Act. As Ari Armstrong notes on his Free Colorado blog, Paul's anti-abortion stance, unlike his father's, goes beyond overturning Roe v. Wade and letting the states decide the issue. The younger Paul, who describes himself as "100% pro life," says "abortion is taking the life of an innocent human being," "life begins at conception," and "it is the duty of our government to protect this life." Toward that end, he supports "any and all legislation that would end abortion or lead us in the direction of ending abortion," including "a Human Life Amendment and a Life at Conception Act as federal solutions to the abortion issue." A Human Life Amendment would declare all fetuses to be persons with a right to life guaranteed by the 14th Amendment. A Life at Conception Act would seek to accomplish the same goal by statute. Hence either measure, rather than denationalizing the issue and letting states decide how to regulate abortion, would make abortion murder under federal law and render unconstitutional any state laws allowing it.

If you agree with Paul that "abortion is taking the life of an innocent human being," this may all seem perfectly sensible to you. Indeed, it can be defended on libertarian grounds. (As I've argued, the belief that abortion is murder would seem to justify even stronger action, assuming the government continues to shirk its duty.) But for anyone who rejects Paul's premise, the legal regime he envisions clearly violates a woman's right to control her own body, as Armstrong argues:

For the details of Armstrong's argument, see this 2008 paper (PDF). Since the disagreement about the moral status of the fetus will not be resolved in the foreseeable future, a federalist approach has the advantage of neutralizing the debate at the national level and allowing Americans to choose from a range of regulatory approaches. It is also more consistent with the (unamended) Constitution. But it is far from the ideal libertarian solution, which, depending on your view of abortion, is either prohibition or deregulation.

W. James Antle III profiled Rand Paul in the May issue of Reason. Last week Brian Doherty contemplated the significance of his primary victory.

Addendum: Libertarian Party Vice Chairman Joshua Koch cites Paul's support for a federal abortion ban, along with his opposition to gay marriage and his refusal to call for withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq and Afghanistan, as grounds for running a candidate against him this fall, which he says the party is considering. "We're not going to let Rand determine what a Libertarian stands for," Koch, an erstwhile Paul supporter, told The Washington Post. "I'm here to say Rand does not have the Libertarian ideology."


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Actually -- while Rand Paul does oppose Abortion, Gay Marriage, and supports continuing terrorist-hunting operations in Afghanistan, he has called for winding down the war in Iraq and bringing the troops home to protect the Southern Border.

But I guess you can't count on the Libertarian Party to criticize Rand Paul accurately, when they see the opportunity to cash in on some of Paul's fame and infamy by running a spoiler campaign.

1 posted on 05/26/2010 2:25:52 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist
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To: Christian_Capitalist

losertarians eating their own...


2 posted on 05/26/2010 2:26:57 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Christian_Capitalist

You mean Liberaltarians.


3 posted on 05/26/2010 2:27:35 PM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: Theophilus; Dr. Eckleburg; Extremely Extreme Extremist
KY Senate Election News.

I'd hoped that the Libertarian Party would take a pass on this election, the way they usually do whenever Ron Paul is the GOP candidate in his own district, but I guess that Rand Paul is not "pure" enough for them.

4 posted on 05/26/2010 2:27:42 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: Drango
Hardly. Obviously, Kentucky Libertarians no longer consider Paul to be "one of their own".

He is, after all, the Republican Nominee for Senate, by an almost 2-to-1 margin of Primary Votes.

5 posted on 05/26/2010 2:29:42 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: Christian_Capitalist

So Rand Paul loses 0.8% of the vote. Big deal.


6 posted on 05/26/2010 2:30:43 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (We bury Democrats face down so that when they scratch, they get closer to home.)
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To: Chi-townChief
You mean Liberaltarians.

I guess that in this case, perhaps I do.

The Kentucky Libertarian Party is clearly more concerned about the "right" to Abortion, than they are about Rand Paul's staunch, libertarian-esque commitment to cutting Government Spending and Taxes.

7 posted on 05/26/2010 2:31:49 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: Christian_Capitalist

Most of those goof balls consider the pro-life movement an infringement on one’s own rights, while ignoring the fact that an unborn baby has rights too. Reducing the size and scope of government power is a worthy goal, but many of these idiots take it too far to the point they come down on the side of total anarchy.


8 posted on 05/26/2010 2:33:59 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (In 2012: The Rookie and The Wookie get booted from the White House.)
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To: Christian_Capitalist

Proof that libertarians are not conservatives at all—just another attempt to live without God.


9 posted on 05/26/2010 2:34:19 PM PDT by grumpa (VP)
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To: ansel12
Given your liking for Rand Paul, but your distaste for "purist" Big-L libertarians, you should love this topic.

FWIW, I used to be a registered Libertarian, a long time ago; but I converted to Republican after deciding --

1.) That the Libertarian Party doesn't run enough Pro-Life candidates for my liking, Ron Paul and Harry Browne excepted; and...
2.) I don't really like stupid "holier than thou" stunts like this, and the LP pulls this kinda crap all the time.

10 posted on 05/26/2010 2:35:43 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: wagglebee; little jeremiah; narses
Libertarians-showing-their-true-colors-on-social-issues ping.

The Tea Party better realize that Libertarians are not natural allies of social conservatives.

11 posted on 05/26/2010 2:36:02 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Christian_Capitalist

He is one of their own, he won’t get elected running as a Libertarian, just like his old man. The Kentucky GOP is stuck with him and they have to defend or deflect a lot of this foolishness.


12 posted on 05/26/2010 2:36:02 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (In 2012: The Rookie and The Wookie get booted from the White House.)
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So, a present-day Congressional Representative takes seriously Thomas Jefferson's declaration that:

"The God who gave us life, gave us liberty at the same time: the hand of force may destroy, but cannot disjoin them."

The implications of such a deeply-held belief are absolutely shocking to what might be called "modern sensibilities," which, with all the advanced scientific data, insist on the old "woman's own body" argument.

13 posted on 05/26/2010 2:37:27 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: BigSkyFreeper
He is one of their own

Obviously not, if they're running against him.

If I were running as a candidate against "BigSkyFreeper for Senate", it would be safe to say that I would not be considered to be "on your side". I would be trying to take votes from you; that's hardly supportive.

14 posted on 05/26/2010 2:39:59 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: Drango
They need to understand he is a libertarian, not a Libertarian. There is a difference.
15 posted on 05/26/2010 2:41:17 PM PDT by Clump (the tree of liberty is withering like a stricken fig tree)
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To: loveliberty2

Well, actually — Paul is running for Senate, not Representative. But other than that, thanks for the post!


16 posted on 05/26/2010 2:41:25 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: Christian_Capitalist

Libertarian principals support using government to prevent the strong from preying on the weak so protecting unborn human beings from being murdered is consistent unless you take the unscientific view that a fetus is no more important then a diseased appendix.


17 posted on 05/26/2010 2:42:10 PM PDT by DManA
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Libertarian principals support using government to prevent the strong from preying on the weak so protecting unborn human beings from being murdered is consistent

I agree with you.

unless you take the unscientific view that a fetus is no more important than a diseased appendix.

Unfortunately, the Kentucky Libertarian Party appears to be taking this position.

18 posted on 05/26/2010 2:43:32 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: Christian_Capitalist
YIKES, those "free-for-all" Libertarians are going to rip Rand out by the roots!

I'm certain that many of then were astonished at his being supported by another, "life begins at conception" like Sarah Palin.

This certainly isn't what my Libertarian friends tell me they stand for and they're even more pro-choice than NARAL!

19 posted on 05/26/2010 2:44:37 PM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: zerosix

They’re not fond of Rand Paul’s staunchly Pro-Life views, no.


20 posted on 05/26/2010 2:46:10 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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