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To: pissant

Im talking about people who are born on American soil. According to the Constitution, they are citizens. Sure there are a few valid exceptions like people who are foreign diplomats and such.

But if someone goes to a court with a valid birth certificate that shows they were born on US soil, the 14th amendment grants them citizenship right then and there.

Section 1401 in Title 8 of the US Code also defines a citizen as:
-Anyone born inside the United States *
-Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person’s status as a citizen of the tribe
-Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.
-Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
-Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year
-Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21
-Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)
-A person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode08/usc_sec_08_00001401——000-.html


35 posted on 05/22/2010 2:55:35 PM PDT by jerry557
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To: jerry557
You were saying ...

Im talking about people who are born on American soil. According to the Constitution, they are citizens. Sure there are a few valid exceptions like people who are foreign diplomats and such.

But if someone goes to a court with a valid birth certificate that shows they were born on US soil, the 14th amendment grants them citizenship right then and there.

The politics and legal wrangling over illegal immigration makes some posters "go crazy" it seems ... LOL ...

I can very well understand cracking down on illegal immigration inside the various states, as my state of Oklahoma has done, too. At the time they put forth a law dealing with illegal immigration (a couple of years ago), it was hailed as the toughest law in the nation. That's Oklahoma for you ... :-)

However, when someone has a record of being born in a certain place in the United States, I don't see any state being able to deprive someone of citizenship, the way things are right now, no matter what the state says.

BUT, if this "country" (as a whole) wants to deal with this issue and deprive kids of illegal aliens from being a citizen -- that is something that surely can be done "legally" and be enforced in all states. It's going to require Congress to act on that particular item, as the states will be knocked down in short order, if they try to do that. That's a completely different matter than dealing with illegal immigrants in their states.

39 posted on 05/22/2010 3:05:02 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: jerry557

No. It is a grotesque misinterpretation of the constitution. Grotesque and idiotic.


44 posted on 05/22/2010 3:11:27 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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