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To: Star Traveler; montanajoe

WKA was addressing someone born of alien parents who were in the US legally, long term for business. As such, they set up their child as analogous to natural born subjects. This is explained in the first half dozen pages - and natural born subjects were such even if their parents were both aliens.

HOWEVER, natural born subjects did NOT address those born of illegals, since illegals in the 1600s would have been executed as spies.

Nor does WKA address those born from parents here as tourists. It would support the idea that someone here illegally, owing allegiance to another country, is NOT a citizen.

A state cannot determine citizenship. It COULD decide how to interpret certain legal phrases as applying to state procedures, which would force a court case since other states would have a different standard. However, AZ is getting ample heat from illegals and the illegal-loving Obama that I see no chance whatsoever of any such law passing.


109 posted on 05/22/2010 5:56:37 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (When the ass brays, don't reply...)
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To: Mr Rogers
As I said in another post to you a conservative legislature has no business passing any law that is unconstitutional on its face. The courts are not conservatives friends and states passing law so they can get the courts to review the law or force some action is a liberal not a conservative idea..
110 posted on 05/22/2010 6:05:44 PM PDT by montanajoe
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To: Mr Rogers
You were saying ...

HOWEVER, natural born subjects did NOT address those born of illegals, since illegals in the 1600s would have been executed as spies.

You don't need a law if you want to get a clarification of this point and make sure that no illegal aliens' kids get citizenship. All that has to be done is to set up a legal case in regards to this (with any appropriate person for this kind of case) and dispute citizenship status in the case. Carry the case to the Supreme Court, get them to hear it and have the issue clarified that way.

If it is as you say, then the Supreme Court will given a decision that reflects your understanding.

One could get such a law passed (as is talked about in this thread) and have a case come up on account of that law, as it would be disputed (by those opposing that law), but I'm afraid that kind of law would be overturned on another basis, than the one you're talking about, so that kind of court case would not accomplish anything.

For me, it's strains credulity to say that something has been done illegally by the United States all this time and everyone knew it too (namely from that understanding that you have from that Supreme Court decision) -- for over 100 years and yet not a single case has been brought up in that 100 years to get the "right thing done" by the US Government and its agencies.

111 posted on 05/22/2010 6:10:06 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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