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The Dollar's Demise is NOT Inevitable (A lot of people have difficulty understanding public debt)
American Thinker ^ | 05/14/2010 | Jon N Hall

Posted on 05/16/2010 12:54:07 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

In a recent American Thinker article, "The Dollar's Inevitable Demise," author Vasko Kohlmayer compares the federal debt to the American economy, or GDP. Mr. Kohlmayer begins his article by correctly pegging GDP at "roughly $14 trillion." Then he trots out the "total public debt," which he puts at "nearly $13 trillion." That would mean the federal debt is currently equal to more than 92.8 percent of GDP.

But one must understand that the "total public debt" figure cited consists of two parts: hard debt and soft debt. The hard debt is the real debt. And the soft debt consists of government "trust funds," like the social security trust fund. The soft debt is money we "owe" ourselves, not Japan and China.

If one clicks on the link Kohlmayer provides, this is all broken down. The hard debt is the "Debt Held by the Public" and the soft debt is the "Intragovernmental Holdings." On the right is "Total Public Debt Outstanding," which is the sum of the other two figures and is the figure Kohlmayer uses.

Here's a link for a little research, and it's user friendly. Look up the debt for the years 1997 through 2002. What you'll find is that the debt went up from 1998 through 2001. Yet, these are the very years frequently cited as having produced record budget surpluses. How odd. We have a surplus but the debt goes up.

This anomaly is due to the merging of the on-budget and off-budget accounts, which the feds have been doing since the late 1960s. The usual off-budget surpluses offset the usual on-budget deficits, which makes the deficit less. In FY 2009, the feds ran an on-budget deficit of $1.549 trillion, which was offset (lowered) by an off-budget surplus of $136B. That's how we got an official deficit of $1.412 trillion. (See OMB's Table 1.1. The source for all table references in this article is here.) The feds have run only two on-budget surpluses in the last 50 years: in 1999 ($1.9B) and 2000 ($86.4B).

Liberals in and out of the media have long cited "total debt" to make the fiscal picture under Republicans appear as bad as possible. But now that Democrats control everything, we see the lapdog media citing the correct figure, the "public debt"; i.e., hard debt. Sunday morning brought two confirmations of this. In "How Much Government?" in Parade magazine, Harvard professor and CNN analyst David Gergin writes

The European Union has agreed that it is dangerous for a country to allow its publicly held debt to exceed 60% of its GDP. The Congressional Budget Office says that the U.S. could hit 60% by the end of this year, and on its current course could hit 100% by 2020.

Then on ABC News' Sunday morning program, This Week, Jake Tapper said:

I want to put up a graphic here. It shows public debt as a percentage of the gross domestic product, in Greece, it's 113.4 percent. In the United States, 52.9 percent. That's still a lot, and that's only public debt. That's not including some of the shenanigans that our government -- some of the chicanery and shell game that we have going on with the Social Security trust fund and such.

Finally, the media is beginning to cite the correct figure. But it takes a flailing Democrat regime to get them to do it. Here's the C.I.A. graphic Tapper put up:


(Watch the This Week video here and read the transcript of it here.)

Since both Kohlmayer and the Sunday news predict difficulties later this year because of federal debt, what difference does it make if they key off of different figures? One reason is that the hard debt is growing ever faster, which Table 7.1 from OMB illustrates:



Notice how the soft debt and the hard debt diverge. This is because the off-budget surpluses are drying up. This year, in fact, Social Security is predicted to run a deficit, and therefore won't be able to offset the on-budget deficit.

In addition to looking at aggregate debt, it is also illuminating to look at yearly debt, i.e. deficits. OMB reports in its Table 1.2 that (as a percentage of GDP) the deficit for FY 2009 was the highest since 1945, clocking in at 9.9 percent. OMB estimates that the 2010 deficit will be equal to an even higher share of GDP -- 10.6 percent.

The main reason we should key off hard debt is that citing total debt legitimizes the fraud of federal financing. It gives credence to treating federal "trust funds" as debt. They're not. Another mistake Kohlmayer makes is in bringing up "long-term liabilities":

This, however, is not the worst of it, because the national debt represents only a relatively small portion of our government's total financial obligations. The far greater bulk is made up of long-term liabilities inherent in entitlement programs [...] the combined liabilities of Medicare, Social Security, and Medicaid amount to an astounding $104 trillion.

When we add the national debt and entitlements together, we get a figure of some $117 trillion. This figure represents the amount of money the federal government will have to come up with in the years ahead in order to discharge its obligations.

This is just not true. And it's already been adjudicated in the Supreme Court. The "long-term liabilities" Kohlmayer refers to are not hard debt. Indeed, Congress could end Social Security today, and there would be no recourse for the citizen. He has no ownership of his Social Security. So, we need to forget about these "liabilities" and "trust funds" and especially "total debt." (For more on this, click here.) Mr. Kohlmayer closes:

To put it bluntly, the dollar's days are numbered and its demise is inevitable. Anyone who still hopes there may be a way around it, must answer that ultimate money question: Where in the world is the American federal government going to get $117 trillion?

The short answer is: It isn't. And that's a good thing. For any attempt to meet those "liabilities" would bring on the dollar's demise. But that doesn't mean America would be in default -- the "liabilities" aren't real. But the treasuries purchased freely and in good faith are real, and their default would make America a pariah state around the world.

Kohlmayer ends his article: "Any suggestions?"

There's only space here for one: Repeal and replace Congress. From a "dollar's demise" standpoint, the current Congress, under Pelosi and Reid, is the most disastrous in history. For the dollar, November can't come soon enough. We must cashier every member who voted for the stimulus and/or Obamacare, replace them with rock-ribbed conservatives, and tell them to do one thing: Balance the dang budget. If the budget is balanced, everything else will fall into place.

If the dollar's demise were indeed inevitable, then the "smart money" would be getting out of the dollar. But the dollar's been perking up a bit lately. Maybe it's a flight to quality, as other currencies are worse. This hoarder of dollars thinks there's still a little time left for the dollar. The demise of the dollar is ... evitable.

Be there in November.

Jon N. Hall is a programmer/analyst from Kansas City.



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: debt; depreciation; dollar; publicdebt
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1 posted on 05/16/2010 12:54:07 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Hard debt is growing ever faster, which Table 7.1 from OMB illustrates:


2 posted on 05/16/2010 12:55:36 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Remember when a lot of people who were saying the housing bubble was going to burst 'didn't understand how real estate works'? Nah, me neither. :p


3 posted on 05/16/2010 12:57:08 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (The worst is behind us. Unfortunately it is really well endowed.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“The short answer is: It isn’t. And that’s a good thing. For any attempt to meet those “liabilities” would bring on the dollar’s demise. But that doesn’t mean America would be in default — the “liabilities” aren’t real. But the treasuries purchased freely and in good faith are real, and their default would make America a pariah state around the world.”

So is he saying that those liabilities are not going to be paid for? A lot of entitlements are going to need to be rolled back or a lot of people are going to have to die in order for that to happen!


4 posted on 05/16/2010 12:58:12 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (?)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm
Looks like I forgot one:


5 posted on 05/16/2010 12:59:18 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (The worst is behind us. Unfortunately it is really well endowed.)
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To: SeekAndFind

It is not just the debt that puts us at risk..it is all the unfunded guarantees..real and tacit that will tip the balance.
The US is not in the position to let the State, cities and counties go broke, and we are also in the postion of guaranteeing all of Fannie, Freddies debt, plus FDIC risk, plus all the other alphapet soup guarantees.
We are like AIG..we have taken on guaranteeing more risk than we can ever hope to pay. And then we are praying for things to turn around..or inflate us out of it.
Somehow, these things are always somewhere out there in the future, but the future is moving towards us faster than the calendar. We in deep dodo.


6 posted on 05/16/2010 1:01:27 PM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Comparing just the US publicly held debt to Greece is comparing apples to oranges. Our total debt is almost equal to our GDP. The entitlement programs represent an unfunded liability of almost $60 trillion over a 75 year period.


7 posted on 05/16/2010 1:02:11 PM PDT by kabar
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To: SeekAndFind

You might tell hundreds of millions of voters that the soft debt is not real. Voters will reject any meaningful entitlement reform until a catastrophe occurs. Even then, it is not clear if a catastrophe will prompt reform. The Democrats plan for reform involves soaking the rich and taking away entitlement benefits from the rich. Not much will be gained from eliminating entitlement benefits from the rich. Confiscatory tax rates will backfire leading to economic decline and lower tax revenues.

Entitlement spending contains a hidden trap for inflation induced debt control. Entitlement spending will grow with inflation so we cannot inflate our way out of debt.

The Democrat fall back provision is stealth of private retirement accounts. Democrats know that real money is locked in these accounts. As John Dillinger once said, rob the banks because that is where the real money is stored.


8 posted on 05/16/2010 1:02:39 PM PDT by businessprofessor
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To: kabar
Comparing just the US publicly held debt to Greece is comparing apples to oranges

One major difference is Greece has no control over her currency as she has effectively ceded her monetary policy to Brussels. Hence Greece cannot depreciate or print money. The US can.
9 posted on 05/16/2010 1:05:16 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

The ability to print money is a two-edged sword. Greece is being forced to address its problems and has some hope of surviving. We may get to the point that our entire economy collapses and we will be carrying our money around in wheelbarrows like the Weimar Republic.


10 posted on 05/16/2010 1:08:11 PM PDT by kabar
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To: SeekAndFind

We, in Canada, heard this same story time and again from liberals, and other “deniers” — right up till we hit a wall in the mid 1980’s & decided to get serious about our debt. Eliminating the deficit was painful — but, once we did so, and started reducing the debt, the benefits started rolling in.

As every “12 stepper” knows — the first step is admitting you have a problem.


11 posted on 05/16/2010 1:08:44 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: kabar

Is that before Obama started spending or after?


12 posted on 05/16/2010 1:10:28 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (?)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

You miss the point of the deficit, Obama and company are purposely running up the deficit to force a collapse of the dollar (and the Euro) The whole idea is a resultant one world government with a single currency and taxing authority to redistribute the wealth around the world.


13 posted on 05/16/2010 1:11:49 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Obama has added almost $3 trillion to the national debt and our GDP contracted initially and is now growing. In the next 10 years Obama will add almost $10 trillion to the publicly held debt and triple what he “inherited.”


14 posted on 05/16/2010 1:14:37 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Eva

If so, the first part of that plan is within reach.


15 posted on 05/16/2010 1:15:25 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: kabar

How far can we push up the debt ceiling before break the bank?


16 posted on 05/16/2010 1:19:59 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (?)
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To: SeekAndFind
Oh!!!!!

Now I get it!!!!!

There is PRETEND debt!

Why was I getting so worked up?

17 posted on 05/16/2010 1:20:49 PM PDT by Glenn (iamtheresistance.org)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

That is exactly what some of us are afraid of.

Sydney Blumenthal once wrote a very long editorial that was printed in the Seattle PI in 1996 about Bill Clinton’s core agenda. Blumenthal said that many critics were claiming that Clinton had no core agenda, that he was too willing to compromise and that he was simply always in campaign mode and so Blumenthal was going to explain Clinton’s core beliefs. Those beliefs were simply, New World Order, which included not only a flat power structure, but a one world government, single taxing authority, and even a one world religion which incorporated beliefs from all major religions which offended no one. The editorial disappeared as soon as it was published. It never appeared on the internet and I have never been able to find it anywhere. My guess is that it was too truthful and too scary to be allowed to be read by the public.


18 posted on 05/16/2010 1:28:39 PM PDT by Eva
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m not so sure this article is a good one. If I read it correctly, the author is saying the US dollar demise is not inevitable because all that needs to be done to save it is to renege on SS.

I don’t think that is an option. If SS was abolished tomorrow, the SS payments to citizens would simply turn into unemployment and welfare payments instead.


19 posted on 05/16/2010 1:37:56 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: Eva
Obama and company are purposely running up the deficit to force a collapse of the dollar (and the Euro) The whole idea is a resultant one world government with a single currency and taxing authority to redistribute the wealth around the world.

because, the postmodern libtards say, the evil white heterosexual Judeo-Christian males of European descent have to be punished because they have oppressed women, homos, blacks, hispanics, the poor, and every other freakin minority.

20 posted on 05/16/2010 1:42:52 PM PDT by mjp (pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, independence, limited government, capitalism})
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