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State Patrol: No grace period, no excuses on cell phones
Seattle Times ^ | 05/14/10 | SCOTT SUNDE

Posted on 05/14/2010 1:06:15 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway

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To: AngelesCrestHighway

Washington state...where governors are allowed to STEAL elections, but cell phones are evil.


21 posted on 05/14/2010 1:37:25 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: steve86

Yea, it’s a Motorola device that clips to the sunvisor. I find it more distracting and less responsive than just pushing the “press to talk” button on the phone.


22 posted on 05/14/2010 1:42:26 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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23 posted on 05/14/2010 1:44:05 PM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Remember Neda Agha-Soltan|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

And of course, they’re going to take away the cell phones the officers spend their whole shift yakking into as they cruise their beats, right? No? Then they don’t get to take the phones belonging to citizens. I’m ok with restricting cell use in active school zones, and with banning texting while driving, and with increased penalties for drivers who cause accidents due to cell use, but some of us are capable of operating a cell while driving and being perfectly safe about it (because we can keep priorities straight, like driving comes first).


24 posted on 05/14/2010 1:46:06 PM PDT by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: apillar

LOL!

The guy who almost hit me this morning sat there and looked at me while I was honking at him to quit drifting into my lane was holding a cell phone up to his ear and talking on it. The driver of the truck hauling a load of bricks that almost went off the road a couple miles farther down the road was sitting there texting. I could see both plainly doing so and I was driving at 65+mph.

On many occasions I will speed up to get around people yakking on their phones when I can-this morning I was in rush hour traffic which made that a bit harder to do. They are easy to spot-they break lane and weave about the road worse then drunk drivers do and in almost all of the cases you can see them plainly holding a phone up to their ear. I would rather have them way behind me then in front of me-that way they will hopefully only kill or maim themselves.


25 posted on 05/14/2010 2:01:50 PM PDT by Nahanni
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

The problem I have with this is that talking on a ham radio is the same as talking on a phone and Hams have been driving and talking on radios since they invented radios.

If you are talking to someone in the car, it is no different than talking on a phone. The only thing I see that can cause accidents about a cell phone is texting while driving. It takes more than one hand to do it and it takes more concentration than talking. Bad law, put into place to enhance revenue. It hasn’t worked well in CA and I see no reason why it will work in any other state.


26 posted on 05/14/2010 2:04:22 PM PDT by calex59
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To: ol' hoghead
The laptop , the radar unit , the am/fm radio , the comm radio , the comm relay radio , the in-car video recorder and the cell phone and pager the cop carries ,, THEY"RE NO DISTRACTION
27 posted on 05/14/2010 2:05:31 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: Neidermeyer
Yes, the cops don't have any room to talk when they have all that stuff to distract them while driving. And drive while cell phoning they certainly do.

Yet, here is an interesting video about texting while driving.
YouTube - Texting While Driving PSA

28 posted on 05/14/2010 2:15:41 PM PDT by Solitar ("My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them." -- Barry Goldwater)
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To: apillar
I always wonder how a Police officer driving 65 MPH down the highway prove “beyond a reasonable doubt” that someone is using a cell phone.

Maybe because they are driving 45 in a 65 zone, and wandering across all the lanes?

29 posted on 05/14/2010 3:07:09 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: Right Wing Assault
“Hello, Police? I saw a man grab a little girl and take her in his van. I can’t see the license plate so I am following him. What? I’m breaking the law and must pull over and stop before I can talk on the phone? Oh, OK. Hold on a minute.”

 

My recollection is that there's a specific exemption in the law for situations where a person is involved in an emergency communication with law enforcement.

30 posted on 05/14/2010 3:15:59 PM PDT by Stoat (If you want a vision of the future, imagine a Birkenstock stamping on a human face... forever)
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To: apillar

“how a Police officer driving 65 MPH down the highway prove “beyond a reasonable doubt”

The offense is classified as an infraction, so the quantum of proof is only by a preponderance. Also, since it isn’t criminal, the defendant can be called and compelled to testify at the hearing. And if you request a contested hearing, the defendant must subpoena the officer or the ticket is just read into the record. Guilty (or more correctly, Committed). It’s all about revenue and cheap operation of the system.


31 posted on 05/14/2010 3:29:07 PM PDT by Spok (Free Range Republican)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

What if I’m in my Toyota and the accelerator gets stuck and I have to call 9-1-1? (hee hee)


33 posted on 05/14/2010 5:33:30 PM PDT by TNdandelion
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To: apillar

Are you legally obligated to show them your call log? It lists the ph#, date and time of each call. :D


34 posted on 05/14/2010 5:34:53 PM PDT by TNdandelion
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To: sionnsar

How do they prove that one?

Take a pic?


35 posted on 05/14/2010 5:48:08 PM PDT by Keith Brown (Among the other evils being unarmed brings you, it causes you to be despised Machiavelli.)
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To: calex59
The problem I have with this is that talking on a ham radio is the same as talking on a phone and Hams have been driving and talking on radios since they invented radios.

Beg to differ. Half-duplex P-T-T mikes with speakers are very different from cellphones held to the ear -- or even hands-free headsets. They still have a tendency to distraction but nothing like the full-duplex communications offered by cellphones. (I don't know where ham radio is these days, do you have full-duplex comms?)

36 posted on 05/14/2010 7:30:09 PM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Remember Neda Agha-Soltan|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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To: Keith Brown
How do they prove that one?
Take a pic?

I don't know, but from time to time I see police strategically located by the entrance to a freeway on-ramp, staring into every car that passes by, with other police pulling ID'd cars over. Having driven through "the stare" it's pretty clear they're looking for people not wearing their seatbelts.

How do they prove that one? Take a pic?

37 posted on 05/14/2010 7:32:59 PM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Remember Neda Agha-Soltan|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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To: sionnsar

Maybe they are hoping the people dont have time to fight them in court.


38 posted on 05/15/2010 8:52:35 AM PDT by Keith Brown (Among the other evils being unarmed brings you, it causes you to be despised Machiavelli.)
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