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USDA downplays own scientist’s research on ill effects of Monsanto herbicide
Grist ^

Posted on 05/10/2010 9:25:54 AM PDT by Scythian

What would happen if a USDA scientist discovered that one of the most commonly used pesticides on the planet with a reputation for having saved millions of tons of US soil from erosion was -- rather than a soil savior -- a soil killer?

That, to quote a certain paranormal expert, would be bad. And yet, it's true.

This news came to the fore thanks to a recently published must-read article from Reuters on how government regulators are “dropping the ball” on agricultural biotechnology. It begins with the story of USDA scientist Dr. Robert Kremer. Kremer has spent the last fifteen years looking at Monsanto's blockbuster broad-spectrum herbicide glyphosate (aka RoundUp), the most commonly used pesticide in the world and the companion to Monsanto’s possibly monopolistic RoundupReady lines of genetically engineered seeds.

(Excerpt) Read more at grist.org ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bhousda; monsanto; roundup; usda
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1 posted on 05/10/2010 9:25:54 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: Scythian

USDA — this is one group that belongs on that list of communist-inspired US agencies that popped up on a thread last week.


2 posted on 05/10/2010 9:28:09 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (the three of the five is the two of the one.)
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To: Scythian

ping


3 posted on 05/10/2010 9:48:56 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (google)
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Roundup is a very benign substance.


4 posted on 05/10/2010 9:49:06 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Chairman Mao was a community organizer)
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Roundup is a very benign substance.

Certianly to plants it is becoming increasingly true ... HERE


5 posted on 05/10/2010 9:51:33 AM PDT by Scythian
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What I find most concerning about this episode is the willful inability of most divisions at USDA to conceive of agriculture without pesticides in general and glyphosate in particular.

Words spoken by someone who never set foot in a field or garden and doesn't understand what weeds will do to crop yields.


6 posted on 05/10/2010 9:52:35 AM PDT by fso301
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Food Inc, the documentary is a worthwhile view for the section on Monsanto - a total takeover of agriculture through strong armed abuse of the legal system. These guys just crush family farmers with dubious lawsuits alleging patent infringement when their GMO crap cross-pollinates with other non-GMO crops.

It’s an ugly scene and the cartels should be broken up under RICO or antitrust.


7 posted on 05/10/2010 9:53:40 AM PDT by sbMKE
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>What would happen if a USDA scientist discovered that one of the most commonly used pesticides on the planet with a reputation for having saved millions of tons of US soil from erosion was — rather than a soil savior — a soil killer?

And when DHT was doing wonderfully, despite Silent Spring’s concern... government is consistent in one thing: making what they are involved in more complex than it needs to be (that alone should be enough an argument for small government).


8 posted on 05/10/2010 9:58:34 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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DDT, not DHT.


9 posted on 05/10/2010 10:01:20 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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I farmed for 10 years and used Roundup regularly.
People have been aware of the resistance issue since Roundup came out.

Natural selection at work; how do people think the Roundup crop varieties were created in the first place? The plant breeders used Roundup to select for plants that would survive Roundup.

A rotation of other herbicides was always the plan to break Roundup resistance.

Roundup has allowed the use of no till and other forms of reduced tillage.

The loss of our nations soil dwarfs every other agricultural issue.

Have you every seen a no till field after a heavy rain? It has almost the same soil loss as your lawn.

Compare that to a tilled field after that same heavy rain. You will see large gullies and other indications of heavy soil erosion.

10 posted on 05/10/2010 10:08:06 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Chairman Mao was a community organizer)
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how do people think the Roundup crop varieties were created in the first place?

Uh, In a lab with a gene gun ?
11 posted on 05/10/2010 10:09:56 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: fso301

That looks like a picture of most of the organic fields I have seen.
They are always a mess.


12 posted on 05/10/2010 10:11:57 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Chairman Mao was a community organizer)
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"It’s an ugly scene and the cartels should be broken up under RICO or antitrust."

I agree 100%!!

13 posted on 05/10/2010 10:15:50 AM PDT by blam
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how do people think the Roundup crop varieties were created in the first place?

Uh, In a lab with a gene gun ?

LOL, pretty much the state of 98% of Americans farm knowledge. Every domesticated animal and plant is genetically modifed. It's what humans have been doing for eons, selectively breeding. It's okay for organic farmers to selectively save the seed from their best plants, but if a corporation does the same thing on a commercial scale, it's evil and will kill us all.

14 posted on 05/10/2010 10:38:47 AM PDT by Valpal1 ("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.")
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alleging patent infringement when their GMO crap cross-pollinates with other non-GMO crops

No, it's their GMO pollen that is blowing around, raping non-GMO plants. Keep that pollen at home and this won't happen.

15 posted on 05/10/2010 11:07:59 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is <strike>fading</strike>gone.)
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What would happen if a USDA scientist discovered that one of the most commonly used pesticides on the planet with a reputation for having saved millions of tons of US soil from erosion was -- rather than a soil savior -- a soil killer?

He would be so despondent that he would commit herbicide. However, he would probably fail, and instead become a vegetable.

16 posted on 05/10/2010 11:11:33 AM PDT by Defiant (At what point will average Democrats say their leaders have gone too far? Is there any limit?)
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Actually, it was in a lab with a “gene gun”. The same with BT crops. Both genes, the herbicide-resistance one and the pesticide-producing one, were inserted with a bacterial “gene gun” that shot the exogenous DNA into the plant cells.


17 posted on 05/10/2010 11:12:08 AM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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You don't have a clue sir, merging flounder (fish) genes into crops to make them frost resistant is not what farmers have been doing, nor using bacteria and viruses such as Ecoli to penetrate the cell, this is so funny because your statement says ...

LOL, pretty much the state of 98% of Americans farm knowledge. Every domesticated animal and plant is genetically modifed. It's what humans have been doing for eons, selectively breeding

I'm embarrased for you because you actually think you are educated on this matter and don't have the slightest clue as to what is going on.
18 posted on 05/10/2010 11:15:22 AM PDT by Scythian
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>>how do people think the Roundup crop varieties
>>were created in the first place?

Detasseling, a Midwest Rite Of Passage, Faces Extinction
http://www.mindfully.org/Farm/Detasseling-Faces-Extinction9aug02.htm

Been there... did that.


19 posted on 05/10/2010 11:16:44 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

The author of this article apparently is unaware that Roundup is not applied aerially.


20 posted on 05/10/2010 11:19:07 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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