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Suspect’s Gun Proved Easy to Obtain (barf alert!)
NY Times ^ | May 5, 2010 | MICHAEL WILSON and WILLIAM K. RASHBAUM

Posted on 05/05/2010 11:09:59 PM PDT by neverdem

The mammoth clock-to-wire-to-gasoline-to-propane car bomb that the authorities said Faisal Shahzad hoped would claim many lives in Times Square has been analyzed, diagrammed, prodded and examined. But not long before his arrest, Mr. Shahzad was also equipped with a less-eccentric — and yet more dependably lethal — weapon. And he owned it legally.

It is fearsome looking, a carbine hybrid of a pistol and a long gun with a mouthful of a name: the Kel-Tec Sub Rifle 2000. Mr. Shahzad bought it, new, in March for about $400. It was found in the Isuzu Trooper that he drove to Kennedy International Airport on Monday, loaded, with multiple extra clips.

Because the Kel-Tec Sub Rifle 2000 is classified as a rifle, it required no permit, as pistols do in Connecticut. But with its folding stock, hand grip and appetite for pistol ammunition and not rifle ammunition, the Kel-Tec was about as close as one could get to a pistol that is not technically one.

The authorities have not disclosed, if they have learned, what Mr. Shahzad planned to do with that gun. But some law enforcement experts have surmised that he had it to fire at officers in case he was pulled over.

The Kel-Tec was briefly center stage in Washington on Wednesday as New York’s police commissioner, Raymond W. Kelly, addressed the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee. He said that Mr. Shahzad bought the gun amid obtaining supplies for the bomb.

“It appears from some of his other activities that March is when he decided to put this plan in motion,” Mr. Kelly told the committee. Of the gun, he said, “It may well have been an indicator of putting something catastrophic in motion.”

The terrorists in Mumbai, India, in 2008 carried out a rampage that killed more...

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1 posted on 05/05/2010 11:09:59 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

The guy tried to blow up a building but their worried about a gun he owned?

I own one of those btw. Fun little guns.


2 posted on 05/05/2010 11:17:07 PM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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His citizenship proved easy to get as well. We really need to give all Muslim immigrant citizenship applicants a hard second look.


3 posted on 05/05/2010 11:18:53 PM PDT by Godwin1
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To: neverdem

I bet his mortgage that he never paid a dime on was even easier to obtain


4 posted on 05/05/2010 11:24:02 PM PDT by blueplum
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To: neverdem

A rifle that uses pistol ammo just makes it a crappy rifle...

I have a marlin campground rifle that takes 9mm pistol ammo, and it also takes the stock S&W clip. In my case the S&W magazine was what made it attractive to me since I also have the pistol, but it’d not s great rifle...


5 posted on 05/05/2010 11:25:18 PM PDT by babygene (Figures don't lie, but liars can figure...)
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To: neverdem

The NYT never misses a chance to propagandize against the right to own a gun.


6 posted on 05/05/2010 11:26:12 PM PDT by Republic_of_Secession.
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To: Republic_of_Secession.

Bloomberg’s an azz, and it was never more apparent than during this incident.


7 posted on 05/05/2010 11:34:34 PM PDT by historyrepeatz
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To: babygene
A rifle that uses pistol ammo just makes it a crappy rifle...

I beg to differ. (Not that I can imagine any Jihadi with one.)

8 posted on 05/05/2010 11:36:51 PM PDT by Redcloak (What's your zombie plan?)
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To: neverdem

Oooh...scary gun alert!

The guy was an American citizen at the time he purchased that gun, and had every right to own it.

Now, whether he should have ever been granted American citizenship is another argument, entirely.


9 posted on 05/05/2010 11:38:36 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: neverdem
Even terrorists need to arm themselves if they live in marginal neighborhoods.
10 posted on 05/05/2010 11:40:46 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Redcloak

I used to have one of those. Loved it. But .44magnum is hardly the same as 9mm. Baseball bat vs. whiffle bat.


11 posted on 05/05/2010 11:46:27 PM PDT by TigersEye (0basma's father was a British subject. He can't be a "natural-born" citizen.)
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To: neverdem

“Wednesday, the Government Accountability Office has released data showing that suspects on the terror watch lists were able to buy guns and explosives from licensed dealers in the United States more than 1,100 times from 2004 to 2010. Such a statistic seems irrelevant in Mr. Shahzad’s case, as he was on no such list in March.”

People on the Department of Homeland Security terrorist watch list can be identified by their characteristic anti-abortion bumper stickers, “God Bless America” decals, and the presence of chewing tobacco drool on their facial hair.


12 posted on 05/05/2010 11:49:43 PM PDT by haroldeveryman
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To: neverdem

As many of you probably know already, this is standard operating procedure according to the AQ manual: get at least one gun. It should be legal.


13 posted on 05/05/2010 11:57:09 PM PDT by Hardraade (I want gigaton warheads now!!)
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To: neverdem

*Suspects Gun Proved Easy to Obtain (barf alert!)*
Yeah and so was the SUV and the gasoline, propane, and firecrackers, etc!


14 posted on 05/06/2010 12:05:13 AM PDT by Lil Flower ("Without Love, deeds, even the most brilliant, count as nothing." St. Therese of Lisieux)
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To: haroldeveryman


15 posted on 05/06/2010 12:15:05 AM PDT by TigersEye (0basma's father was a British subject. He can't be a "natural-born" citizen.)
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To: babygene

It’s an Assault Pistol!


16 posted on 05/06/2010 12:16:04 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: TigersEye
Well, I won't call it unbelievable, but it is depressing that officers sworn to uphold the Constitution would seek to investigate private citizens accused of no crime who hold those very ideals.
17 posted on 05/06/2010 12:21:08 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The RINOcrat Party is still in charge. There has never been a conservative American government.)
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To: Carry_Okie

You probably know the history of that leaflet, produced by the Phoenix FBI office in ‘98 or ‘99 and quickly canned after it became known to the public, but it sure seems the mindset persists considering last year’s DHS report. Disturbing.


18 posted on 05/06/2010 12:28:16 AM PDT by TigersEye (0basma's father was a British subject. He can't be a "natural-born" citizen.)
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To: TigersEye

Great job, FBI! There hasn’t been a major attack on a U.S. city by a Christian Identity group in years!


19 posted on 05/06/2010 12:41:44 AM PDT by haroldeveryman
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To: neverdem

Police Commissioner Kelly is a good match with Janet Incompetano.

Is there NO ONE who takes Homeland Security seriously. It seems all a game to get more more more tax dollars into the system.

We are at the point now where it’s HOMELAND INSECURITY.

Too many lamebrains on the force instead of a few good men.


20 posted on 05/06/2010 3:31:37 AM PDT by Carley (WE CAN SEE NOVEMBER FROM OUR HOUSE)
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