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A Rebirth of Liberty, or a Neocon on a White Horse?
fitzgerald griffin foundation ^ | April 15, 2010 | Charles G. Mills

Posted on 04/23/2010 6:32:26 PM PDT by grand wazoo

Liberals see powerful centralized government as a way to achieve what they think is good. Neocons, although they disagree on what constitutes the good, share this view. Conservatives, in contrast, see powerful centralized government as a problem rather than a means to a solution.

Liberals, in complete control of the American government, are heading for disaster. They have virtually destroyed our foreign policy. They are piling up deficits several times as large as the excessive deficit of last year. They promote policies that may well lead to the loss of the AAA rating of U. S. Treasury bonds and notes. They are inviting double digit inflation. They are growing the size of government and shrinking the size of private enterprise. They are encouraging all kinds of unspeakable immorality. They are putting us at greater risk of attacks by terrorists. They are destroying our medical system. These actions can only end in a disaster; when they do, the country will turn either to conservatives or neocons.

If the neocons maintain a stranglehold on the Republican Party, they will probably benefit from the coming disaster. If their stranglehold is broken, there may be a rebirth of liberty.

Neocons love the pomp of military power without the decades of self-denial that goes into making a good general or admiral. Their foreign policy is aggressive in parts of the world where America’s interest is minimal. They have raised to over 100 the number of countries in which American troops are posted. There is a real danger that if the liberals achieve their trainwreck, a neocon on a white horse (or at least one in a camouflaged Humvee) will offer himself to save the country. Such a new leader in a crisis brings a threat of tyranny.

We can avoid this by creating a new conservative majority without neocon infiltration. Conservatives must reach two groups: Americans concerned by the overreaching of the federal government, and Americans concerned about the moral decay of the country. Both groups are needed to achieve a majority. If neocons plot to increase the overreaching of the federal government, the majority coalition will collapse in disillusionment.

This means we must gather together people who are seriously committed to reduce the size of the federal civilian bureaucracy at a minimum to that of the first term of Ronald Reagan. These people must tell the truth about immigration, even if it is politically incorrect. These people must be committed to a return to a country that supports decency, the right to life, public honesty, and law and order. These people must be truly serious about re-creating a country in which the federal government keeps its nose out of our business and the city government keeps the criminals off of our streets. These people must be serious about disengaging from foreign conflicts that have little effect on America.

If we cannot do this before the current liberal recklessness finally creates a disaster that the people find intolerable, we may have to live with a demagogue who calls himself a conservative but expands the iron grip of the federal government. These are crucial times, and the alternatives are stark: liberty or a strong man.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: gop; neocon; paleocon

1 posted on 04/23/2010 6:32:26 PM PDT by grand wazoo
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To: grand wazoo

NEOCONS!!!

2 posted on 04/23/2010 6:40:13 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: grand wazoo

“When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.” ~ Sinclair Lewis


3 posted on 04/23/2010 6:43:11 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/backroom/2312894/posts?page=242)
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To: grand wazoo

The neocon canard. It’s the MODERATES in the party, not the defense hawks, that are screwing things up.


4 posted on 04/23/2010 6:43:31 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: grand wazoo

Some liberals have good intentions but they take the wrong approach to achieve them. The better way is for them to adopt conservative principles and ideas. Unfortunately, the far left radical extremists who now run the democratic party are driving the moderates and conservative democrats out of the party. That is why you see so many democrats starting to change their party affiliation. The changers are ashamed and outraged by the actions of their own party now. They have become disgusted with the machinations of the administration and the leadership of their party.


5 posted on 04/23/2010 6:43:43 PM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: grand wazoo

Rand Pauli is neocon.


6 posted on 04/23/2010 6:52:28 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Now- EVERY US Tax payer is an abortion provider. We are the great satan.)
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To: Ev Reeman
It would be better if moderate and conservative democrats didn't vote at all rather than change their party affiliation.

This would cause the GOP to move right. If the democrats become RINOs, they move the GOP to the left.

7 posted on 04/23/2010 7:01:57 PM PDT by grand wazoo
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To: pissant; grand wazoo
The neocon canard. It’s the MODERATES in the party, not the defense hawks, that are screwing things up.

It's not the neocons. And moderates can be dealt with as they are outed.

The problem is the DRUG-WARRIORS like Antonin Scalia who prop up the LEFT's all-encompassing interpretation of the COMMERCE CLAUSE. If the Commerce clause went back to strictly interstate commerce, half the federal government gets off our backs. BUT then you need a drug Prohibition Amendment to authorize the drug war because it was just that issue of the Supreme Court finding federal laws against alcohol insupportable by the interstate commerce power (and the unenforceablity of state laws) that led to the disaster of the 18th Amendment. It has been a matter of convenience that the Right has proceeded against drugs without an amendment or its political baggage and the Left has let them do it in return for a coalition of support for unbridled power in all areas since the New Deal. Wickard v. Filburn (1942)
8 posted on 04/23/2010 7:44:33 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (NEW TAG ====> **REPEAL OR REBEL!** -- Islam Delenda Est! -- Rumble thee forth)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
It's not the neocons.

I respectfully disagree.

The neocons have been a negative force since they were welcomed into the Republican party and they have dragged the GOP to the left. They give lip service to conservative social policy, but are far more concerned with foreign affairs. Playing armchair generals, fighting pointless wars and ruining the American economy.

Remember that Bill Kristol said that they could just as easily be neo-liberals.

It is time to let them go.

9 posted on 04/23/2010 8:31:40 PM PDT by grand wazoo
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To: grand wazoo

Ditto.
http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/001679.html
Irving Kristol and his disciples are every bit as conservative as Linseed Graham, Juan McCain and Sphincter (D). So called `neo-conservatism’ is spinach and I say to hell with it.
(If I had more time I’d tell you what I really think.)


10 posted on 04/23/2010 9:16:35 PM PDT by tumblindice ("Bite us La Raza." The Great State of Arizona)
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To: grand wazoo

War has had virtually NO effect on the economy since Vietnam (which was a modest boost). Simply none big enough. Iraq’s $100B was nothing in a $14T economy.

You just want to push a suicidal isolationism and use an economic downturn caused by crazy financial shenanigans and a huge spike in oil prices caused by an economic bubble in the U.S. and China with a degree of speculation.

We don’t need that with crazies ready to erupt all over the place.

We need a robust foreign policy that gets rid of NK nukes, Somali pirates, Iran centrifuges, Taliban insurgents etc. with extreme prejudice. We need to cut government by half, eliminating the commerce power except at state lines, closing half the cabinet agencies, privatizing schools, medicine and retirement plans, stop illegal immigration and repatriating most of those here.

Things have really been screwed up since 1876.
Reconstruction should not have ended until about 1910.


11 posted on 04/23/2010 10:04:00 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (NEW TAG ====> **REPEAL OR REBEL!** -- Islam Delenda Est! -- Rumble thee forth)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
Wasting a few trillion dollars on a pointless war doesn't have any effect on the US economy? If you believe this, you are insane.

I prefer non-interventionism. The US military should not be building schools and hospitals in Iraq and Afghanistan. They should be defending the homeland, maybe patrolling the southern border. Crazies erupt all the time. Let those countries where the eruption occurs deal with them. Unless they threaten US security, we should not get involved.

North Korean nukes do not intimidate me. Let Japan and China deal with it. They have surpluses of population and treasure.

Somali pirates? Does the US really need a $100 million dollar military presence to deal with a bunch of half-starved morons with AK 47s on john boats?

Iran will have nukes someday. Deal with it. The USSR was a far greater threat and we managed. Let Russia and the middle eastern countries deal with it.

Taliban insurgents. We should have leveled Afghanistan and walked away. Our extended involvement will have no lasting effect.

We should not be afraid of the rest of the world. They should afraid of us.

12 posted on 04/24/2010 6:04:12 AM PDT by grand wazoo
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To: grand wazoo
They should afraid of us.

With the foreign policy you outlined, what for?
13 posted on 04/24/2010 6:31:52 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (NEW TAG ====> **REPEAL OR REBEL!** -- Islam Delenda Est! -- Rumble thee forth)
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Foreign policy is about diplomacy, not being the bully on the block. The US is perceived as a negative influence in many parts of the world because of our excessive military involvement in those areas. If we reduced the amount of time spent fighting and then building/occupying all of these countries, the negative perception that the rest of the world has of us would diminish. Wars of aggression (Iraq I, Bosnia, Iraq II) only lessen our credibility with the rest of the world (and domestically also) and provide another reason for others to hold us in contempt. A strong military that has the backing of the American public to fight enemies that threaten the US would be more effective and less of a political liability than the military that we have now.

Our military is stretched thin, is too expensive, and is involved in activities that a majority of Americans have no desire to be involved in. Bring the boys home and reduce the military budget by a third.

A foreign policy based on Washington's farewell address would solve many, if not all, of the problems that we face today.

But then, many here would consider the founding fathers to be evil "isolationists".

14 posted on 04/24/2010 9:25:15 AM PDT by grand wazoo
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