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Backers defend AZ crackdown on illegal immigrants
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Posted on 04/15/2010 8:27:05 AM PDT by LouAvul

Supporters of the nation's toughest crackdown on illegal immigration, on the verge of approval in the Arizona Legislature, say the state law is necessary to help stamp out crime and keep citizens and law enforcement officers safe. The measure would make it a crime under state law to be in the country illegally. It would also require local police officers to question people about their immigration status if there is reason to suspect they are here illegally.

Immigrants unable to produce documents showing they are allowed to be in the U.S. could be arrested, jailed for up to six months, and fined $2,500.

"No longer will we sit by and let our citizens be killed, maimed, injured (and) hurt," said Republican state Sen. Russell Pearce, who sponsored the measure.

But civil rights activists warn that Arizona is inviting rampant racial profiling and police-state tactics.

"That is an unprecedented expansion of police power," said Alessandra Soler Meetze, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union of Arizona. "It's giving police officers a green light to harass anyone who looks or sounds foreign."

The ACLU and immigrant rights groups are demanding Republican Gov. Jan Brewer veto the measure if it reaches her. The Republican has not announced whether she will sign it, but said she is a strong supporter of pragmatic immigration laws.

Her predecessor, Janet Napolitano, a Democrat who is now President Barack Obama's Homeland Security secretary, vetoed similar proposals.

Current law in Arizona and most states doesn't require police to ask about the immigration status of those they encounter. And many police departments prohibit officers from inquiring out of fear that immigrants won't cooperate in other investigations.

The law also would crack down on employment for illegal immigrants by prohibiting people from blocking traffic when they seek or offer day labor on street corners. Also, a judge could fine a city for not enforcing the immigration law vigorously enough.

The new measure would be just the latest crackdown of its kind in Arizona, which has an estimated 460,000 illegal immigrants.

Pearce, the bill's sponsor, has been the driving force behind Arizona's tough new measures, including a law copied in other states that punishes companies caught knowingly hiring illegal immigrants. He insists the measures are aimed at enforcing immigration laws, not racial profiling.

"I believe handcuffs are a great tool, but you have to put them on the right people," said Pearce, a former cop who can list the local officers killed or wounded by illegal immigrants. "Get them off the police officers and put them on the bad guys."

Supporters of the crackdown also point to Phoenix's high kidnapping rate, which law enforcement says is fueled by immigrant and drug smugglers who snatch their rivals or their family members as a way to collect unpaid debts, make quick money or as retaliation for earlier abductions.

Anger over the porous Mexican border mounted last month when an Arizona cattle rancher was shot to death. Investigators said he may have been killed by drug runners working for cartels based in Mexico.

The new measure is supported by police unions representing rank-and-file officers, who deny they would engage in profiling.

It is opposed by police chiefs, who worry that the law would be too costly, that it would distract them from dealing with more serious problems, and that it would sow such distrust among immigrants that they would not cooperate with officers investigating other crimes.

Legal immigrants fear the law would give officers easy excuses to stop them, and that even U.S. citizens could find themselves detained if they can't prove their legal status.

"When they come up with these things, it doesn't matter if I'm here legally," said Jose Melendez, a 55-year-old naturalized U.S. citizen from Guadalajara, Mexico. "If they see a Mexican face and a Mexican name, they'll ask for papers."

Anti-immigration activists say the larger goal is to discourage illegal immigration by making the U.S. inhospitable.

"Most illegals would leave on their own if they felt the U.S. was serious about our laws," said William Gheen, president of Americans for Legal Immigration Political Action Committee.

House Republicans passed the bill on a party-line vote Tuesday. The Senate approved it in February but must vote on changes made in the House before sending it to the governor.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; arizona; illegalaliens; mexico
Anti-immigration activists say the larger goal is to discourage illegal immigration by making the U.S. inhospitable.

It should say, "Anti illegal immigration activists. Big difference. One lost on the MSM.

1 posted on 04/15/2010 8:27:06 AM PDT by LouAvul
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To: LouAvul

Our border is an actual combat zone. Just ask the Border Patrol agents.


2 posted on 04/15/2010 8:30:08 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: LouAvul
But more criminal aliens crossing the border = more crime near the border...MSM sees no causation/correlation. **Illegals increasingly charged in violent crimes**

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2481863/posts

“... 55,322 criminal aliens were arrested a total of at least 459,614 times, averaging over eight arrests per alien. The Department of Justice expressed its surprise at the ‘extremely high’ rate of re-arrests for criminal aliens when it found that that 73 criminal aliens in a study group were arrested a total of 429 times.”

...quoting a Government Accounting Office (GAO) study. Reflect on those numbers for just a minute. This GAO study is only counting the number of arrests! And that should bring two questions immediately to mind: How many actual crimes did these 55,322 criminal aliens actually commit?

How is it even conceivable that each of these illegal aliens could be arrested on average a total of almost nine times?

To at least partially answer the second question, you only need to look at so-called “sanctuary cities.” Sanctuary cities are localities across the United States where liberal mayors and local legislators have instituted policies that prohibit law enforcement from cooperating with federal immigration agents and prohibit them from even questioning the immigration status of anyone they arrest. But to add more insult to injury, many American cities even allow illegal aliens to obtain free health care, food stamps and a whole assortment of government goodies without having their immigration status questioned. htt

p://www.gao.gov/new.items/d05646r.pdf

3 posted on 04/15/2010 8:35:17 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ("The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants"-Albert Camus)
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To: LouAvul

I saw ElPaso ,Tx(Mexico) last night on a BBC America special.
It proved to me that that part of the USA has now been ceded to Mexico, with all of our tax payer privileges. Like Miami(American Havana)ElPaso is another foreign country’s parasite entity. English is considered the second language at these sh-tholes.


4 posted on 04/15/2010 8:40:20 AM PDT by GOYAKLA (Flush Congress in 2010 & 2012)
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To: LouAvul

Lou, it’s not lost, it’s purposefully distorted.


5 posted on 04/15/2010 2:05:08 PM PDT by jimt
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To: LouAvul

I fully support Arizona taking these measures, even though it means a large number of their illegals are heading north for the more illegal friendly climate in Utah. At some point, our representatives will realize what the rest of us already know — that we need to tighten things up here, too. It’s starting to get bad.


6 posted on 04/15/2010 2:11:36 PM PDT by Hoffer Rand (There ARE two Americas: "God's children" and the tax payers)
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To: LouAvul
"When they come up with these things, it doesn't matter if I'm here legally," said Jose Melendez, a 55-year-old naturalized U.S. citizen from Guadalajara, Mexico. "If they see a Mexican face and a Mexican name, they'll ask for papers."

Jose, it's only because so many of our illegal invaders ARE Mexican. If they were English, Americans with Mexican faces and names would not be bothered.

Texas cops (if we ever get such an intelligent law) need to remember that men named Jose Francisco Ruiz, Jose Antonio Navarro and Lorenzo de Zavala were signatories on the Texas Declaration of Independence. Honorable men, honorable names and certainly true Texans !

The illegals are parasites and need to be deported in wholesale lots along with their anchor babies. I don't care WHAT color they are or WHAT language they speak.

7 posted on 04/15/2010 2:14:34 PM PDT by jimt
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To: LouAvul

Just curious, but how DO you prove you’re here legally? Carry a passport or a birth certificate?


8 posted on 04/15/2010 2:33:21 PM PDT by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!)
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9 posted on 04/15/2010 2:40:34 PM PDT by HiJinx (Angels are found where you least expect them; let them comfort you.)
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