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Millionaire Tim Burns Wants to Raise Middle Class Taxes (Democrats distort support of the Fair Tax)
DCCC website ^ | 3/25/2010 | Press Release

Posted on 04/15/2010 5:56:16 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog

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This is actually running as a TV ad here in PA. Made my anger boil over. Could not find a video link but here is the accompanying press release. They are distorting Tim Burns past comments in support of the Fair Tax in order to make it look as if "Tim Burns supports imposing a 23% sales tax on everything you buy". (meanwhile below the surface the Obama Administration continuse to quietly work away on a VAT tax....the hypocricy set me over the edge)

They are also exclusively referring to him as "Millionaire Tim Burns". What's next....nicknaming him "Monty" and using clips from The Simpsons? Sadly this is time-tested here in PA. Grandma and Grandpa Retired Union Member will see this ad and freak out, then go rushing straight for the Democrat Party Straight Ticket handle at the nearest polling place.

Commercials just like this were used with great effect by James Carville to get Bobby Casey's dad elected Governor.

1 posted on 04/15/2010 5:56:16 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

In my opinion we should put tax reform on the back burner and put all our energies into reducing Federal spending and power.


2 posted on 04/15/2010 5:59:29 AM PDT by DManA
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To: DManA

This does demonstrate the great difficulty of adopting ideas like the Fair Tax, no matter how much sense they may make. The Dems will just demagogue the living tar out if it. Then we end up not even getting modest improvements.


3 posted on 04/15/2010 6:03:07 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

It bothers me that the Dems would distort the Fair Tax along with the canidate. So sad.


4 posted on 04/15/2010 6:03:52 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (There is no such thing as a conservative democrat - Rinse - Repeat)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Yeah, and the DCCC would push the peddle to the metal to get a VAT tax passed,.while keeping the income tax


5 posted on 04/15/2010 6:06:20 AM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

this presser does not even begin to do justice to how misleading the TV spot is


6 posted on 04/15/2010 6:17:16 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: RobbyS
Did it strike anyone as odd that the MSM is shrieking about "47% pay no income tax?" It has been that way for a very long time, why the histrionics now?

I believe it is to prepare us for the "equity" of a VAT tax that hits those that do not pay income tax harder than those that do (a regressive tax in the DemonRat parlance). Of course they will also provide a "prefund" for the poorest just to keep them on the plantation.

Yes, they think we are that ignorant.

7 posted on 04/15/2010 6:18:48 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (Don't just pick between Bull Sh*t and Horse Sh*t, clean out the stable!)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
But an EU-style 25% VAT would be A-OK.
8 posted on 04/15/2010 6:23:40 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (FYBO: Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I’m afraid the democrats would love the fair tax - on top of every other tax. Have you ever seen a tax a democrat didn’t love?


9 posted on 04/15/2010 6:27:37 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Buckeye McFrog

If nothing else point out that the Fair Tax would mean the demise of over 100,000 IRS employees. I have no idea why the Fair Tax proponents don’t work that angle. We don’t need 100,000 IRS agents. Fire them all and put 25,000 new BP at the border.


10 posted on 04/15/2010 7:05:05 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Alfred E. Neuman for President! Oh, wait a minute ...)
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To: Aevery_Freeman

The government’s lust for money knows no limit, BTW. I still recall when Texas first passed a sales tax. The promise was: never will get above 3%! Well now the state rate is 6.5% plus an addition 2% in many locales.


11 posted on 04/15/2010 7:14:11 AM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

This completely distorts the Fair Tax proposal. The ‘23%’ tax increase on all retail products is already built into the price of everything we purchase so when the Fair Tax is instituted there is no net increase in prices since companies don’t have to push the cost of their income taxes to the consumer. Point is that everyone is already paying the 23% increase in price through the corporate taxes. Typical of Democrats to paint it this way and typical of Republicans to let the Democrats get away with it.


12 posted on 04/15/2010 7:27:55 AM PDT by msharrisn
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To: Buckeye McFrog
"This does demonstrate the great difficulty of adopting ideas like the Fair Tax"

IMO if the dhimmis want to defend the IRS let them, tie it and the current tax code around their necks.

I can envision an ad where the current code , all 27,000 pages, are hauled into view on a forklift! An announcer explains some of the astonishing costs of compliance and the byzantine mechanics of it, not to mention the curruption of the politcal process it engenders.

These are easy and devasting points. Burns can make the case in 60 seconds!

13 posted on 04/15/2010 8:06:02 AM PDT by Pietro ("I am not an idealouge" BHO; "I am not a crook" RMN)
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This completely distorts the Fair Tax proposal. The ‘23%’ tax increase on all retail products is already built into the price of everything we purchase so when the Fair Tax is instituted there is no net increase in prices since companies don’t have to push the cost of their income taxes to the consumer.
Even if that were a fact (It isn't, it's mathematically impossible), how does maintaining what we are already paying in the price of everything we buy replace all of the other taxes they propose to eliminate? Where is the logic in that?

The 23% Fairtax isn't a 23% increase it would have to be a 30% increase. The Fairtax is tax inclusive..

A pre-tax price of $100.00 would be a tax inclusive price of $129.87...
$29.87 is 23% of $129.87

See my tag line.

14 posted on 04/15/2010 8:18:15 AM PDT by lewislynn (What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in common? Disinformation)
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To: DManA
In my opinion we should put tax reform on the back burner and put all our energies into reducing Federal spending and power.

i would tend to disagree. I think the voracious apetite for revenue must be dealt a serious blow, as it is the genesis of so much that is wrong with government at all levels.



15 posted on 04/15/2010 8:26:03 AM PDT by zeugma (Waco taught me everything I needed to know about the character of the U.S. Government.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
The misnamed "Fair Tax" is a fraudulent tax reform proposal crafted by the very weasels who benefit most from the perverted loopholes in the current code.

Crucify the IRS Boogyman and distribute monthly cradle to grave Social Security checks to all Americans while beligerantly accusing critics of being "marxists".

The "Fair Tax" should be used as a litmus test.
Any candidate supporting that abomination should be eliminated from consideration. Period.

16 posted on 04/15/2010 8:39:07 AM PDT by Willie Green
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I don't understand what you disagree with.

I think the voracious apetite for revenue must be dealt a serious blow,

17 posted on 04/15/2010 8:41:05 AM PDT by DManA
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I don't understand what you disagree with.

I think that without serious changes to the way taxes are raised, collected, and allocated, anything else we do will come to naught.

The fact that the government feels entitled to half of my income is what needs to change. It is this entitlement mindset on the part of both the government and far to much of the citizens of this country that is one of our biggest obstacles.

18 posted on 04/15/2010 8:53:19 AM PDT by zeugma (Waco taught me everything I needed to know about the character of the U.S. Government.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Chet Edwards ran the same bunk here in Texas. Made it seem like grocery bills would go up from $100 to $130, without explaining that there would be no income tax. That is the dem meme (rhymes!), pretend that fair tax is in addition to what already exists.


19 posted on 04/15/2010 9:17:05 AM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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But Texas has no income tax, right? I know they have high property taxes, and moderate sales taxes, but was told they dont’ have an income tax.

I could see how that would be a tough sell in TX unless the property taxes or sales taxes were going to be reduced by some equivalent percentage.


20 posted on 04/15/2010 9:22:32 AM PDT by SZonian (We began as a REPUBLIC, a nation of laws. We became a DEMOCRACY, majority rules. Next step is?)
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