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Scent of Shale Gas Hangs Over Katyn
Moscow Times ^ | 14 April 2010 | Yulia Latynina

Posted on 04/14/2010 3:43:41 AM PDT by theanchoragedailyruse

Then it all ended unexpectedly, as if on cue. Putin traveled last week to Katyn along with Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk.

What caused such a dramatic shift?

The Wall Street Journal on April 8 reveals the answer. According to the article, “U.S. [energy] giants will start drilling for shale gas in Poland within the next few weeks.”

There’s your answer. All of Russia’s neo-imperialism has been built upon the fact that it has “peaceful gas” (similar to the Soviet Union’s “peaceful atom”) and that it can shove its gas pipelines through Poland just like the Kremlin did with Ukraine. But what if Poland becomes a shale gas exporter?

(Excerpt) Read more at themoscowtimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: energy; gazprom; katyn; naturalgas; shalegas
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1 posted on 04/14/2010 3:43:41 AM PDT by theanchoragedailyruse
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To: theanchoragedailyruse

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2490301/posts?page=118#118


2 posted on 04/14/2010 3:47:53 AM PDT by theanchoragedailyruse
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To: theanchoragedailyruse

Oh, my! This will sure upset the potato cart.


3 posted on 04/14/2010 4:00:15 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: theanchoragedailyruse
Did you see the youtube clip of taken by a local Russian who witnessed the crash?

He walks into the wreckage field while it is still burning and before there is any evidence of rescue or response crews (no trucks, firefighters, etc). He and an old man walk through the debris for about 50 seconds. Then a clear gunshot is picked up. The videographer adjusts his position. Two more shots are clearly heard. The videographer says "Fuck me" after each shot. We see the old guy retreating from the sound. We see through the trees and smoke two dark-dressed men moving through the wreckage about sixty yards away as another shot is heard. Then the clip ends.

I saw it last night an hour after it was posted. It's already been scrubbed off the web.

4 posted on 04/14/2010 4:11:15 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: theanchoragedailyruse

Everything is energy. You, me, plants, the sun, mechanics, electrons in orbit...

The then Soviet Union massively supported the anti-nuclear power movement, even in the US. It supported various Arab regimes.

Shale gas extraction technology will, as it has in the US, dropped the price of Natgas. The US may become an exporter of gas...to Europe. Europe may be self reliant. Putin may lose a major source of cash for him and his buddies.


5 posted on 04/14/2010 4:19:05 AM PDT by Leisler
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To: theanchoragedailyruse

So is everyone still buying the “official” Russian story of pilot error?


6 posted on 04/14/2010 4:23:29 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: wtc911

Really??? If anyone else comes across that video then download it but also put on a drive or CD that is separate and NOT connected to your computer.


7 posted on 04/14/2010 4:24:42 AM PDT by Josa
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To: Anti-Hillary

Just ‘cause we were talking about this...

Accident? No, I don’t believe in this big of coincidences.


8 posted on 04/14/2010 4:24:58 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: wtc911

I have no doubt Putin is capable of intentionally causing such a tragedy.

I just don’t see why he would think bringing down this plane gets him anything.

The Polish president is Head of State, not Head of Government, and even if he were both, like our president, when he dies he would just be replaced by someone else who would likely have much the same policies.


9 posted on 04/14/2010 4:36:06 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan
The plane was full of high-ranking Poles, not just the President.

I am not a conspiracy guy. In fact I like to deconstruct conspiracy theories.

I do know though what gunshots sound like and I do know what the video/audio shows. Men were walking through the debris field and single shots were being fired.

The videographer's reaction was exactly what one would expect of somebody stumbling into a series of coup de grace executions in progress.

Also, the official story is that there was a blanketing thick fog that caused the crash conditions. The video, taken within minutes of the crash, shows this to be a lie.

10 posted on 04/14/2010 4:41:47 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: Josa
Yes. I showed my wife and sent the link to a friend of mine who is Russian. There is no doubt among us what we saw.

I tried to save the video this morning but it is gone.

11 posted on 04/14/2010 4:43:11 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: Josa
The dead link....

http://www.youtube.com/index?ytsession=k4iU0DW70_xVWcVqBK9Kx04TX_sa-mOxGab04Guu384DscdBc8PVKmfVSkDQadAXSsTMotTBVj2brer-ZVpb27tjq-6fXUgUnJQX81fgHSBWVRgnweg1IAm0kQT4BW6sJ-MCuKk19xn-R-QG6Y2ts0rgDb-cqJXWbz0uvDtV6sEHtuyfCBQTumyrTpxKrlny222k6qZPIwtZmkfCxo_26m6LjNLDpwU7u8DKcc1TvBk9F_dnr8zCeedzBjua77pLlfA0l-TZeU3SvleV_fl65apJXihlWAz4LY0Gr6lvDtD5fJfi5xLMARuEVdEXUxqkLTjc52Tl7u3FCETJ9y7wGOkYk_fk9MpW

12 posted on 04/14/2010 4:45:53 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: wtc911

Okay, how does killing a bunch of high-ranking Poles help the Russians?

Other Poles will just move up into their positions.

I’m also somewhat skeptical of the story you describe. It would mean gunmen were able to get to the crash site considerably before rescue personnel, which would presumably mean they knew in advance more or less exactly where it would come down.


13 posted on 04/14/2010 4:52:59 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan
I’m also somewhat skeptical of the story you describe.

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You wouldn't be if you saw the video yourself. But you can't because it's been removed. But, suit yourself.

14 posted on 04/14/2010 4:58:28 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: Leisler
Minor correction:

The then Soviet Union massively supported the anti-nuclear power movement, even especially in the US. It supported various Arab regimes.

15 posted on 04/14/2010 4:58:30 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: wtc911

tinyurl.com is our friend.


16 posted on 04/14/2010 5:01:35 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: SatinDoll

Oh, the perogis...


17 posted on 04/14/2010 5:03:01 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: Lee'sGhost

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkEmHSIVDwE&feature=player_embedded


18 posted on 04/14/2010 5:05:28 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: wtc911

Right. But you didn’t jot down the username? Or the URL? You didn’t bookmark it? You didn’t have any interest in viewing it again, or saving it, or giving the URL to other people?


19 posted on 04/14/2010 5:38:03 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan (In Edward Kennedy's America, federal funding of brothels is a right, not a privilege.)
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To: wtc911

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h01IFwgdAk


20 posted on 04/14/2010 5:55:34 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan (In Edward Kennedy's America, federal funding of brothels is a right, not a privilege.)
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