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Four killed as USAF CV-22 crashes in Afghanistan
Flight Global ^ | April 9, 2010 | Craig Hoyle

Posted on 04/09/2010 4:03:27 AM PDT by Yo-Yo

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To: Leisler
40 years old. Yikes. The maint guys must be magicians.

The last B-52 was built in 1962 which makes them at least 48 years old but they are still flying!

List of surviving B-52 Stratofortresses

41 posted on 04/09/2010 6:54:51 AM PDT by TSgt (We will always be prepared, so we may always be free. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Recon Dad

“...Marines feel they have a handle on all the old issues, we shall see once they dig through this particular crash.”

I believe you’re right. My son is a Phrog pilot, and as much as he loves the aircraft, an old design is an old design.

Tell your son to stay safe.


42 posted on 04/09/2010 6:57:53 AM PDT by paterfamilias
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To: Yo-Yo

Damn. They operate out of Kirtland here in Albuqueque, and fly over my house often. Prayers up.


43 posted on 04/09/2010 7:04:01 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (The townhalls were going great until the oPods showed up.)
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To: paterfamilias
Where he's at he needs more than just my prayers, but I do multiple times a day. Only a short time left.

Tell you son he's doing great work and not to listen to any of the 2nd Lt.’s on where the drop zone should be. Get a second opinion from an NCO jumpmaster!

44 posted on 04/09/2010 7:08:55 AM PDT by Recon Dad ( USMC SSgt Patrick O - 3rd Afghanistan Deployment - Day 171)
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To: TSgt

The V-22 is vitally needed in our operations.I hope this is not a major setback.I do have to say that this program has been pushed hard for years just like most other pentagon gold plated machines.


45 posted on 04/09/2010 7:09:16 AM PDT by shanover
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To: Yo-Yo

We pray for the families of our fallen heroes, that they may find strength and comfort in God’s unending love, and we know that our honored dead shall have peace and everlasting life in His eternal embrace.


46 posted on 04/09/2010 7:46:59 AM PDT by hsalaw
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To: B-Chan

I am not focusing per se on the V-22. I know how dangerous helicopters are, I was on plenty of Hueys, Cobras and OH-58’s. So maybe people like me are just more cognizant of its inherent flaws.

The V-22 cant even auto-rotate, and if one of those rotors enters ring vortex state the bird will flip over and auger in.


47 posted on 04/09/2010 7:50:12 AM PDT by valkyry1
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To: Yo-Yo

Prayers up!


48 posted on 04/09/2010 7:52:35 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (We're right, we're free, we'll fight and you'll see!)
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To: All
The Osprey / variants have come a long way - It is now favored by a growing majority of boots on the ground - Especially when going into deep Indian country and warm LZs..
49 posted on 04/09/2010 7:58:25 AM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: Yo-Yo

RIP for the crew. I really hate to say this but for technology and advances to be made risks are taken and people die. Hopefully the risks are mitigated but they aren’t always. I personally wouldn’t want to fly anything that requires a computer to be involved with the flight controls. I am an aerospace engineer and a pilot so I know how lousy the software and hardware systems are made, and they are only getting worse.


50 posted on 04/09/2010 8:00:51 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: Yo-Yo
....quite familiar with the 16th SOS.....here's some of their special breed...

"The Warlord"..54-1625..lost 21 apr 70

"Thor"..56-0590..lost 21Dec 72

"Surprise Package"

51 posted on 04/09/2010 8:01:27 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)
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To: Doogle

vintage of course...*smiles*...era late 60’s early 70’s


52 posted on 04/09/2010 8:03:22 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)
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To: valkyry1

LOts of aircraft = lots of accidents.

At the height of the Vietnam war (yes, it was) the Amry had losses of over $1.5 million *each day* in non-combat related accidents. THat is in 1967 dollars BTW.

V-22 has a unique ‘sound’ and does not broadcast it’s arival 20 min before it is on site. Shithooks and Hueys are heard looooong before they land.


53 posted on 04/09/2010 8:06:48 AM PDT by ASOC (In case of attack, tune to 640 kilocycles or 1240 kilocycles on your AM dial.)
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To: Doogle
KEWL!
nice pic

(Uncle Sam's Callin' card to terrorists)

54 posted on 04/09/2010 8:15:55 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Zer0 to the voters: "Here's my DeathCARE Plan"...now....just die (quicky), please. :^)
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To: paterfamilias

I witnessed Marine 46 pilots’ skill on several occasions in Iraq. They would put a stunt-flying outfit to shame. More than once while watching them overhead I told myself it’ll never be seen in a movie because no one else could ever fly like that and the military would only do it for tactical ops in a war zone. Absolutely phenominal all-weather formation flying. One day when I’m old and retired I would like to do an oil painting of a formation of them lifting off out of a dust cloud at night in Babylon in 2004.


55 posted on 04/09/2010 8:25:46 AM PDT by Justa
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To: elcid1970

Sorry, Navy Habit!


56 posted on 04/09/2010 8:47:51 AM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: Justa

I will forward your comments to my son. Thanks.


57 posted on 04/09/2010 8:48:34 AM PDT by paterfamilias
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To: Leisler

Do you have any idea how many Bell 47’s we could have bought with that $27B?!?


58 posted on 04/09/2010 8:51:59 AM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: databoss

The concept doesn’t seem so complicated but in practice it has stability problems it seems.


59 posted on 04/09/2010 10:42:58 AM PDT by GeronL (There is only a "Happily ever after" for you if you're the one writing your own script)
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To: TSgt; Leisler
The last B-52 was built in 1962 which makes them at least 48 years old but they are still flying!

I worked on G models and A model KC-135s were built in the 54-58 time frame when I was just 18!

Troubleshooting the avionics on these old birds separated the men from the boys.

60 posted on 04/09/2010 10:50:33 AM PDT by TankerKC (I think P. T. Barnum had his time off by about 59 seconds.)
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