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VAT attack
NY Post ^ | April 8, 2010 | DANIEL J. MITCHELL

Posted on 04/08/2010 3:20:15 AM PDT by Scanian

One of President Obama's top economic advisers, former Fed chief Paul Volcker, sug gested this week that it's time for America to adopt a VAT, or value-added tax. The White House yesterday downplayed the idea -- but it's sure to resurface: It's an inevitable consequence of a government that's too big now and likely to grow even bigger thanks to Washington's reckless spending spree.

Don't get me wrong: The VAT -- on top of all the other taxes Washington imposes -- is a terrible idea. Imposing it would pretty well finish the transformation of our country into a European-style slow-growth nation. The right way to close Uncle Sam's gaping deficits is to reverse the continued explosion of federal spending.

The VAT is a type of national sales tax, levied on the value-added at each stage of production. Consider a piece of furniture: The VAT would be imposed when the raw timber is sold, when the sawmill produces lumber, when the manufacturer builds a chair, a tax at the wholesaler level and then when a retailer sells the chair to a consumer.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: deficits; governmentspending; taxes; volcker

1 posted on 04/08/2010 3:20:15 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: Scanian

Yup. Just what we need. More taxes. Go ahead, dims. Raise the taxes and make more taxes. The landslide in November will be awesome to see.


2 posted on 04/08/2010 3:27:44 AM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Scanian

If the deal was simple and we went across the board with a five-percent national sales tax, and a five-percent flat income tax deal for everyone who makes over $30k a year...then it might sell. In the present form....they will keep income tax going with no real change. It’s a bad deal for the economy, the public, and the future of the country.


3 posted on 04/08/2010 3:27:48 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Scanian

So to make those tough decisions and to continue the Non stop spending we get rolled again and the Politicians win again,the Government and government workers will thrive and the rest will suffer and the United States Of America is no More


4 posted on 04/08/2010 3:31:36 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: Scanian

PING


5 posted on 04/08/2010 3:35:27 AM PDT by Ulysse (a)
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To: Scanian

The VAT willprobably work about as well as the Clinton era Luxery tax


6 posted on 04/08/2010 3:43:05 AM PDT by screaming eagle2 (No matter what you call it,a pre-owned automobile is STILL A USED CAR!!!)
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To: Scanian

The VAT willprobably work about as well as the Clinton era Luxery tax


7 posted on 04/08/2010 3:43:43 AM PDT by screaming eagle2 (No matter what you call it,a pre-owned automobile is STILL A USED CAR!!!)
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To: Scanian
I dislike the value-added tax for one reason: the compliance costs are almost as bad as the income tax itself. Is it small wonder why many European economies and the Canadian economy have stagnated since the VAT got implemented?

Maybe it's to show the world how taxation should be done correctly by repealing the 16th Amendment and replacing the entire broken income tax system with this:


8 posted on 04/08/2010 4:45:27 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: Scanian
To avoid double taxation, each seller along the way gets a credit for taxes paid at earlier stages of the production process. So the final tax to the consumer, at least in theory, is the same as a retail sales tax of the same amount.

I just love those word 'in theory'. Especially when connected to anything gubmint related. But this theory has a hole in in from the start. And it's a HUGH Hole, A money sucking Super Massive Black Hole, and that is 'the po' folk'.

The VAT would hit the 'Rich Guy' buying a yacht, or the Wino buying his morning quart of Mad Dog 20-20. Oops, I mean 'the po' folk'. And THAT will fly like a lead balloon. It won't be a week until the Dems start crying about its 'unfairness' and demanding another giveaway to 'the po folk' who, they cry, "already pay enough in withholding 'taxes'". Even though FICA isn't a 'tax' but your 'Medicare insurance and 'retirement' pension" -- HEY!.. no laughing!

So you can bet the farm there'll be a VAT Rebate Check Box for the 'po folk' on that new 1040A form, just like for the Earned Income Credit. Which reminds me.. why is there a 'Credit' for 'Earned Income' on a tax form that's supposed to Tax all your 'Earned Income'?? Sheesh, and I though the Super-String Theory was bizarre! Oh well, back to the VAT.

The bottom line is that the 'po folk' won't pay a VAT and the 'Rich' will stop buying yachts, and it'll be "FrankTheBaker x 107" who will pay the VAT, like an extra $7K on his new Delivery Van. Until he goes out of business from all the new taxes anyway.

And the gubmint? They'll sit there and say, 'Hey, where's all this VAT Tax Money we were supposed to rake in? We must not be charging enough? Let's raise it!'

9 posted on 04/08/2010 4:47:08 AM PDT by Condor51 (SAT CONG!)
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To: pepsionice
I agree, if they meant to use a VAT, or sales tax in order to REPLACE our income tax, I'd be for it. This is just another money grab by Washington.
10 posted on 04/08/2010 5:26:30 AM PDT by Paradox (The Party of Know.)
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To: pepsionice

Once they get it going, it just goes up and up with no end to it. The UK is debating a VAT hike to 20% right now.


11 posted on 04/08/2010 6:41:28 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: Scanian
Oh, it's just a temporary tax!

I sincerely hope a sarcasm tag isn't needed here!

12 posted on 04/08/2010 6:49:38 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (RAT Hunting Season started the evening of March 21st, 2010!)
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To: RayChuang88
I dislike the value-added tax for one reason: the compliance costs are almost as bad as the income tax itself.

But it's OK to pile all those compliance costs on the final transaction, i.e., the retailer?

13 posted on 04/08/2010 6:53:22 AM PDT by kitchen (One battle rifle for each person, and a spare for each pair.)
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To: kitchen
That would be true 20 years ago, but today's retailers use cash registers and electronic transaction systems that can forward the sales tax revenue from retail sales directly to the local tax authority as needed. As such, that makes generating revenue from FairTax even faster, since instead of waiting for revenue to come in once or twice a month from various forms of withholding, quarterly income tax estimate payments or once a year from income tax filings, you get revenue at minimum once a day directly from most retailers.
14 posted on 04/08/2010 10:51:41 PM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: RayChuang88
So, you believe there are no costs to the retailer?
15 posted on 04/09/2010 4:09:57 PM PDT by kitchen (One battle rifle for each person, and a spare for each pair.)
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