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To: Adder
You wouldn’t listen before...now you get to hear it even more.

Exactly. We tried civil discourse before they passed this monstrosity. Republicans were shut out of crafting the legislation. They were shut out of the debate. There were no hearings, no consultations with doctors, or economists, or businesses, or drug companies. It was rammed through with almost no time to even read it. Obama had a six hour dog and pony show with critics, which he promptly dismissed. The crooked process with which they passed it was also thoroughly opposed by most voters. We begged for a debate, and were denied. They wouldn't acknowledge us when we were polite, now we are more surly.

19 posted on 03/26/2010 5:10:45 AM PDT by fhayek
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To: fhayek
"Exactly. We tried civil discourse before they passed this monstrosity. Republicans were shut out of crafting the legislation. They were shut out of the debate. There were no hearings, no consultations with doctors, or economists, or businesses, or drug companies. It was rammed through with almost no time to even read it. Obama had a six hour dog and pony show with critics, which he promptly dismissed. The crooked process with which they passed it was also thoroughly opposed by most voters. We begged for a debate, and were denied. They wouldn't acknowledge us when we were polite, now we are more surly."

The quality of the tyranny is the same as another point in history

"We have held the subject up in every light of which it is capable; but it has been all in vain. Shall we resort to entreaty and humble supplication? What terms shall we find which have not been already exhausted? Let us not, I beseech you, sir, deceive ourselves longer.

Sir, we have done everything that could be done to avert the storm which is now coming on. We have petitioned; we have remonstrated; we have supplicated; we have prostrated ourselves before the throne, and have implored its interposition to arrest the tyrannical hands of the ministry and Parliament.

Our petitions have been slighted; our remonstrances have produced additional violence and insult; our supplications have been disregarded; and we have been spurned, with contempt, from the foot of the throne. In vain, after these things, may we indulge the fond hope of peace and reconciliation. There is no longer any room for hope.

If we wish to be free -- if we mean to preserve inviolate those inestimable privileges for which we have been so long contending -- if we mean not basely to abandon the noble struggle in which we have been so long engaged, and which we have pledged ourselves never to abandon until the glorious object of our contest shall be obtained, we must fight! I repeat it, sir, we must fight! An appeal to arms and to the God of Hosts is all that is left us!" -- Patrick Henry

Secession from the tyranny of Britain was the order of that day and Secession from the tyranny of this union is OUR charge. All thats left to discuss is how much we are taking with us...

35 posted on 03/26/2010 5:33:02 AM PDT by myself6
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