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Projections from the House's 'deem to pass' roll call (hope from Michael Barone)
Washington Examiner ^ | March 18, 2010 | Michael Barone

Posted on 03/19/2010 6:59:03 AM PDT by Siena Dreaming

Did a search...did not see this one posted. Interesting and hopeful analysis from a guy who makes his living doing this kind of stuff.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: barone; deemandpass; examiner; healthcare
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1 posted on 03/19/2010 6:59:05 AM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: Siena Dreaming

Michael Barone is the king of vote analysis, but I lost count of his count.

Anyone able to follow and arrive at a number or a range?


2 posted on 03/19/2010 7:14:25 AM PDT by savedbygrace (You are only leading if people follow. Otherwise, you just wandered off.)
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To: Siena Dreaming
But we’re still seeing only one November no vote switched publicly to yes—that of Dennis Kucinich, one of two Democrats who opposed the House bill from the left (with the other, Eric Massa, no longer in the House). We’ve seen more November yes votes switching publicly to no.

Is that really true? What about Betsey Markey?

3 posted on 03/19/2010 7:19:33 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: savedbygrace

Jeez.

The Federal debt stands at $8 trillion at the end of 2009. But the Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and Federal Home Loan Bank debt stands at $8 trillion as well. This combined debt load for the U.S. is $16 trillion and represents 110% of our gross domestic product. This “Grecian Formula” of debt issuance to fund our housing goals is not sustainable. If we add in the $3 trillion of commercial real estate debt, that puts our combined Federal debt plus GSE and commercial real estate debt at 131% of GDP. Greece is at 125% of its GDP. AND THAT IS JUST OUR FEDERAL AND REAL ESTATE DEBT!!

WE CAN’T AFFORD ANY MORE DEBT OBAMA YOU A$$HOLE!


4 posted on 03/19/2010 7:20:06 AM PDT by whitedog57
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To: Siena Dreaming

So why didn’t you post the article?

You post claims this is an article by Michael Barone but you sis not post even one word from him.

You are allowed 300 words.

Is this a blog pimp post?


5 posted on 03/19/2010 7:21:42 AM PDT by earlJam
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To: savedbygrace

Read the article. It is a very good analysis and definitely encouraging.


6 posted on 03/19/2010 7:23:31 AM PDT by Buckeye Battle Cry (Enjoy nature - eat meat, wear fur and drive your car!)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

I knew Dennis Kookcinich would be a yes vote.....hell he got to ride in Air Force One and watch the uncut version of FINDING NEMO, can’t stop that !


7 posted on 03/19/2010 7:26:02 AM PDT by advertising guy (Consumer Of Confiscated Liquers Czar)
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To: earlJam

No, it’s not a blog pimp. I guess one excerpt didn’t stand out to me this time. The entire article is worth a read.


8 posted on 03/19/2010 7:30:35 AM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: Siena Dreaming

Michael Barone always has great analysis and I pray he’s right. I still have hope this bill will come crashing down on Sunday. In the end, the thing politicians care most about is getting re-elected. And voting yes on Obamacare won’t do that.


9 posted on 03/19/2010 7:31:01 AM PDT by Eterna1Soldier (Palin4president 2012)
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To: savedbygrace

They have to vote on the rule, right? It has to get a majority also. How is that different than voting on the bill itself, in terms of being accountable for their vote? Just asking.


10 posted on 03/19/2010 7:32:04 AM PDT by drubyfive
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To: savedbygrace
Well Barone is not painting a scenario where we declare complete victory. He thinks in an up or down scenario the votes aren't there for Pelosi, but that is not in the cards right now. The vote will be Sunday under the Slaughter scam, Obama signs it, declares victory, and onto getting illegals as Democrat voters. I am afraid like Cap and Tax we need to be the tortoise in this fable. Obama will have his celebratory moments but what counts is getitng law implemented. With a straight up or down vote, we have no plan B, we are stuck repealing and fighting parts of the plan. Slaughter and we are have a better than average chance of getting the whole load of dung thrown out.
11 posted on 03/19/2010 7:32:31 AM PDT by pburgh01
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To: earlJam

Here’s the money shot: “This looks like the toughest challenge the House leadership has faced since Nancy Pelosi was elected Speaker in January 2007.”


12 posted on 03/19/2010 7:36:01 AM PDT by DrC
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To: drubyfive

No difference at all.


13 posted on 03/19/2010 7:36:53 AM PDT by moose2004 (Stand up, speak out and stop Obamacare and GE)
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To: Eterna1Soldier
I still have hope too.

Unbelievable pressures must be going on in those on-the-fence districts right now.

That's why I didn't believe the FOX panel's predictions yesterday...anything can happen in those pockets of the country over the next 2 days. I think this still has a good chance of breaking in our favor.

14 posted on 03/19/2010 7:38:11 AM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: pburgh01

Has the bill been posted online yet? Any chance at having 72 hours to look at it, like the One promised, before the vote?


15 posted on 03/19/2010 7:39:42 AM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: NCLaw441

We have a rogue legislative and executive branch. 150 Years ago the President would have been removed, and hung right there on Pennsylvania Avenue.


16 posted on 03/19/2010 7:41:41 AM PDT by pburgh01
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To: Recovering_Democrat
What about Betsey Markey?

Markey will now vote yes. I'm not surprised--she's a left-winger in a fairly conservative district (this is what happens when conservatives stay at home)--but I am angry. I'm going to call her office, but I need to calm down first. We're supposed to be polite when we call, aren't we? I'm not capable of that now.


17 posted on 03/19/2010 7:42:09 AM PDT by Cinnamontea
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To: drubyfive
They have to vote on the rule, right? It has to get a majority also. How is that different than voting on the bill itself, in terms of being accountable for their vote? Just asking.

In reality, there's no difference. In theory, it was supposed to provide a "fig leaf" for vulnerable 'rats to claim that they voted for "reform" but not the Senate bill that actually "passed" and was signed into law.

The exposure of the process may have stripped that fig leaf away, however. Despite Hoyer's inanity, the American public generally frowns on people flagrantly breaking the rules to get what they want. (Bending the rules is often seen as courageous but outright breaking them, not so much.)

18 posted on 03/19/2010 7:42:35 AM PDT by kevkrom (Hey, IRS: can I simply "deem" my taxes paid instead of paying them?)
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To: earlJam

So, why didn’t you click on the link? Takes you right to Michael Barone’s article. Take a deep breath and go get a cup of coffee.


19 posted on 03/19/2010 7:43:21 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: earlJam

Seriously, it’s from the Washington Examiner and she is a blogger?


20 posted on 03/19/2010 7:45:36 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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