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To: WOBBLY BOB

Have to say that I disagree.

Two workers, both making the same income.

You scrimped and saved before you got laid off? Well, no assistance until you deplete your savings and don’t have two dimes to rub together.

Meanwhile, the person who spends every dime he earns, gets assistance immediately.

Both paid the same taxes, both worked the same length of time. How is it fair that the person who saved and scrimped has to deplete their savings, before getting assistance?


2 posted on 03/17/2010 5:49:13 AM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: Hodar

Saving should include saving food. I’ve seen plenty of pimp daddies in section 8 driving $40k Escalades.

Why do we rarely see anyone rob a grocery store...of food?


3 posted on 03/17/2010 5:52:11 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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To: Hodar

You are correct. Scrap the entire program so as to not rob Peter to pay Paul, cuz that isn’t “fair”, either.


4 posted on 03/17/2010 5:52:12 AM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Hodar

i took a 25% salary cut and my wife was laid off...i had plenty of money in a 401k and tried to take some out to make ends meet....i was told that i had to wait until we went into default on bills and then get letters of hardship from creditors in order to qualify to withdraw some of MY money to keep us from going into default...makes sense doesn’t it....don’t let someone help themselves with their own money, let them ruin their credit etc first....


5 posted on 03/17/2010 5:52:31 AM PDT by tatsinfla
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To: Hodar

Free! Let’s give everything to everyone for FREE! Yea...that’s the American way. Work is overrated. It is unhist that everybody does not have everything FREE!!!!!


6 posted on 03/17/2010 5:52:43 AM PDT by hal ogen
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To: Hodar

Free! Let’s give everything to everyone for FREE! Yea...that’s the American way. Work is overrated. It is unjust that everybody does not have everything FREE!!!!!


7 posted on 03/17/2010 5:53:00 AM PDT by hal ogen
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To: Hodar
How is it fair that the person who saved and scrimped has to deplete their savings, before getting assistance?

It's not fair, not by a long shot. But the remedy is not to extend "assistance" to everyone. A return to a system primarily based on private charity would return both fairness and accountability to helping those in needs. As usual, Liberals outsource our basic human responsibilities to government, which then does an extremely poor job of being moral or even human.

Americans are highly generous, but also pragmatic. If Uncle Sam makes them "give at the office," and give and give and give, and creates a permanent underclass dependent upon Uncle Sam as the middleman for Americans' forced "charity," this unfair and unaccounted for forced "charity" impacts how private charitable efforts go.

If Americans "had" to help each other, because the guvmint kept the hell out of the way, you'd see very efficient and effective, targeted programs spring up in every locale to help those in need, especially right in those in those specific locales.

Even if people had to - gasp! - pay their own medical bills, first, costs would come way down. Second, if a family could not afford a certain treatment, I can guarantee fellow citizens would give if it were a worthy cause. Libs, though, have taken away not only most of our motivation to help others, but also the opportunity. It's often a fool's errand to pay more (on top of what Uncle Sam already confiscated from me) for "charity" when the guvmint wastes my "forced charitable giving" in the first place.

8 posted on 03/17/2010 6:05:45 AM PDT by fightinJAG (Donate to keep ads running against Obamacare & Rat congresscritters http://www.dickmorris.com/blog/)
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To: Hodar
P.S. to my #8:

Returning to a system primarily based on private charity also provides a great motivation to good citizenship. That's the thing about private charity. Yes, you can be a bum and still get fed in the church soup kitchen. Nothing wrong with that. The poor will be with us always and it's our obligation as humans to help.

But big-time, above the basic-call-of-duty community charity, especially because of how private fund-raising works, would end up going mostly to people who are at least trying to pull their own weight and not living so stupidly as to be causing their own most expensive problems.

You can readily see that a bake sale for leukemia treatments for a two-year-old will raise more money than a bake sale for new dentures for the town drunk who busted his chops, again, in a DUI that, BTW, killed the star high school quarterback.

Now some people will say THAT's not fair. So be it. Libs never think an asset-test OR a moral-test is fair. And it's not, literally, if it's the guvmint doing the giving. But private individuals can, do and SHOULD make such judgments. There would be charitable organizations that help people in all kinds of situations. But as a charitable giver, you would determine the types of situations your money addressed.

14 posted on 03/17/2010 6:17:40 AM PDT by fightinJAG (Donate to keep ads running against Obamacare & Rat congresscritters http://www.dickmorris.com/blog/)
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To: Hodar
How is it fair that the person who saved and scrimped has to deplete their savings, before getting assistance?

I agree with you. The food stamp program should be a safety net not life support. If they permitted families with more assets to be eligible for food stamps, then perhaps they could recover financially before the food stamp program becomes a necessity for life support. Of course you would have to limit the time they could remain on food stamps while still holding on to their assets.

16 posted on 03/17/2010 7:39:42 AM PDT by Between the Lines (AreYouWhoYouSayYouAre? Esse Quam Videri - To Be, Rather Than To Seem)
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To: Hodar

Are savings a right?


22 posted on 03/17/2010 10:31:27 AM PDT by jettester (I got paid to break 'em - not fly 'em)
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