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Compilation: Dems do not have votes, will "deem bill passed;" claim reconciliation bill also done
Politico, NY Times, The Hill | 3/16/10

Posted on 03/16/2010 12:46:18 PM PDT by pabianice

http://www.politico.com/livepulse/0310/Hoyer_Dems_dont_have_the_votes.html

http://prescriptions.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/03/16/hoyer-defends-controversial-house-procedure/

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/87047-gop-to-try-to-stop-slaughter-solution


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KEYWORDS: 2takelibertyaway; 2taketheconstitution; 2takevotingaway; 4thecommongood
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Fast and furious. Dems defending "deeming ObamaCare passed" without an actual vote. House Repubs trying to find a way to stop Dems. NY Times defends Dems.
1 posted on 03/16/2010 12:46:18 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: pabianice
No different than they would do in any thug controlled third world nation.

Don't be surprised if Obama tries to find a way to 'suspend' Nov. elections.

2 posted on 03/16/2010 12:49:55 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: pabianice

Democrats beware: those who “deem” will be doomed.


3 posted on 03/16/2010 12:50:26 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: pabianice
Can someone please say "Constitutional Crisis".

Supreme Court, Republicans, Tea Party, anybody, Fox News, somebody, please.....

4 posted on 03/16/2010 12:50:40 PM PDT by Licensed-To-Carry (Hey Obama! All you have done is awaken a sleeping giant and filled us with a terrible resolve!!)
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To: pabianice

Time to lock Bayonets.


5 posted on 03/16/2010 12:52:13 PM PDT by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: Licensed-To-Carry

Is it time yet?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Af5KJ2aD8F0&feature=PlayList&p=6FD208ACD6D676E3&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=6


6 posted on 03/16/2010 12:53:02 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Yes it’s time.


7 posted on 03/16/2010 12:54:38 PM PDT by wilco200 (11/4/08 - The Day America Jumped the Shark)
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To: pabianice
If the Dems pass a law in a dubious manner why do they think

1. Courts are going to uphold it?

2. Future executives (i.e. Presidents) are going to feel obliged to enforce it?

OK, they are sort of stupid questions since we are obviously dealing with Dems but these are points that we should start bringing out.

8 posted on 03/16/2010 12:55:00 PM PDT by Tribune7 (Only stupid, racists people support Obama.)
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To: pabianice; All
For whatever it's worth, I found this info at HillBuzz:

March 16, 2010 at 12:49 am

I have been publicizing the FREE fax site for sending blast faxes to blue dog dems. So easy. Just a few clicks, and absolutely free.

http://ciafax.ning.com/

 
March 16, 2010 at 12:37 am

I am trying to stop ObamaCare by faxing a lot.

For those with some money ($15, $35, or $75), Grassfire Nation will fax your message to a list of Congressmen (17, 52, or 132 leaders) for you:
http://www.grassfire.com/3122/offer.asp

Grassfire also has a Stop ObamaCare petition.

My hubbers tells me my generic Stop ObamaCare fax is well-written enough that I should share it with the wider world, so here goes (indulge me):

Dear Lawmaker,

My family has a lot of medical problems. I know what it’s like to be sick. I know what it’s like to wake up every morning not knowing how you’re going to pay your medical bills. I’ve lived through all that and it sucks.

But ObamaCare is not the answer. The “reforms” in ObamaCare aren’t going to fix the system. They are going to break the system even more.

Our health care system isn’t broken because it’s too free. It’s broken because it’s not free enough.

Our health care system isn’t broken because it’s at the mercy of market forces. It’s broken because it’s already too shielded from the market by pre-existing laws, regulations, and mandates. The solution isn’t to pile more on.

If we really want to make health care in America better, why don’t we reform the tax code so that employers’ health plans aren’t favored over individual health plans? That will make health plans portable again, and will end the absurd tragedy of losing your health plan when you get too sick to hold a job. Why don’t we relax health-insurance mandates so people aren’t forced to buy coverage they neither want nor need when they purchase a health plan? Why don’t we enact meaningful medical-malpractice reform? Why don’t we create health vouchers (instead of Medicaid) for the poorest and sickest among us, so they have a direct resource for getting the medical care they need? These steps, and more like them, would truly improve accessibility and lower costs in the long run. These are the steps you would take if you were serious about helping poor and sick Americans in ways that actually WORK.

But ObamaCare doesn’t do those things. No, ObamaCare is a monument to everything that is already wrong with health care in America.

Obama said we should pass ObamaCare because “I am my brother’s keeper”. But I say that as my brother’s keeper, I want to keep my brother safe from the harm of ObamaCare. It is because I love my brother that I think ObamaCare should be stopped. ObamaCare won’t just hurt me and my family. It will hurt millions unknown to me, many of the most vulnerable among us, many yet to be born. Opposing ObamaCare is an act of charity, an act of brotherly love.

So I urge you, take a stand for your constituents. Do the brave thing. Do the loving thing. Do what is right for our children and our children’s children. Stop ObamaCare now. Start health-care reform over from scratch, in a way that respects Americans’ freedoms. For if we are not free to care for our own bodies, the earthly instruments of our wills and spirits, what freedom do we have?

Listen to the American people. Stop ObamaCare and save American freedoms. Stop ObamaCare and save American lives.


HT: Opus #6, Xana

9 posted on 03/16/2010 12:55:03 PM PDT by backhoe (All Across America, the Lights are being relit again...)
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To: pabianice
Ummmm..., we need "links" when you post links, doncha know.... LOL ...

http://www.politico.com/livepulse/0310/Hoyer_Dems_dont_have_the_votes.html

http://prescriptions.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/03/16/hoyer-defends-controversial-house-procedure/

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/87047-gop-to-try-to-stop-slaughter-solution


10 posted on 03/16/2010 12:55:37 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Democrats beware: those who “deem” will be doomed.

The Communists do not fear for their lives, and until they do, we are the doomed.
11 posted on 03/16/2010 12:55:56 PM PDT by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: fortheDeclaration
“John has a long mustache”, I repeat,

“John has a long mustache”

12 posted on 03/16/2010 12:57:52 PM PDT by Licensed-To-Carry (Hey Obama! All you have done is awaken a sleeping giant and filled us with a terrible resolve!!)
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To: pabianice

This is a way to guarantee that reconciliation will not happen in the Senate. It has become a hot potato.

The Senate bill will end up passed in the house but the Senate will not take up reconciliation.

No one wants to be held accountable for doing something they know is wrong. But they will be.


13 posted on 03/16/2010 12:59:08 PM PDT by dforest
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To: All; fortheDeclaration; pabianice

“At what point shall we expect the approach of danger? By what means shall we fortify against it? Shall we expect some transatlantic military giant, to step the Ocean, and crush us at a blow? Never! All the armies of Europe, Asia and Africa combined, with all the treasure of the earth (our own excepted) in their military chest; with a Buonaparte for a commander, could not by force, take a drink from the Ohio, or make a track on the Blue Ridge, in a trial of a thousand years. At what point, then, is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide.”
~Abraham Lincoln, Address Before the Young Men’s Lyceum of Springfield, Illinois (January 27, 1838)

What Good Can a Handgun Do Against An Army?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2312894/posts


14 posted on 03/16/2010 1:02:58 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (If we're an Empire, why are Cuba, Iraq, the Philippines, Japan & Germany independent?)
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To: pabianice

Do you mean that they aren’t even going to vote on the “deeming” bill and just say it’s passed?.........


15 posted on 03/16/2010 1:03:48 PM PDT by Red Badger (Education makes people easy to lead, difficult to drive; easy to govern, but impossible to enslave.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Dumb Deeming Dems Doomed............


16 posted on 03/16/2010 1:05:05 PM PDT by Red Badger (Education makes people easy to lead, difficult to drive; easy to govern, but impossible to enslave.)
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To: Kartographer

We’re not there yet, but that spark is getting mighty close to the powder keg, and with the way things are going in Washington, that spark is starting to look like a torch...


17 posted on 03/16/2010 1:06:28 PM PDT by gjones77
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To: pabianice

Well, if it ain’t obvious to the sheep by now then no use even trying to explain it to them... they are gone.


18 posted on 03/16/2010 1:07:33 PM PDT by mikelets456
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To: Tribune7

It doesn’t matter if the courts will uphold it or the future leaders will support it. This thing has blown up in their faces. Pelosi rolled the dice. She lost. Obama is breathing down her neck. She needs a way out. NOW!!! If they don’t pass anything, they have to admit failure. They won’t do that!!! So, they are going to pass a radical overhaul with an unconstitutional rule. They win.

So they cause a Constitutional crisis? So what? They passed healthcare.

Future Congress overturns it? Big deal! The hateful Republicans want children to die. But we passed it!

SCOTUS overturns it? BUSH’S FAULT!!!! But who cares? We passed it!!!

Comrade Pelosi is looking for an exit that saves as much of her stretched face as she can. If she shreds the Constitution while she does that, she doesn’t care.


19 posted on 03/16/2010 1:09:00 PM PDT by Shadowfax
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To: Licensed-To-Carry

you mean the term the criminal liberal media could not stop using in the aftermath of the Nov 2000 election??


20 posted on 03/16/2010 1:10:24 PM PDT by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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