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I've been following this since the beginning but I can't make much sense out of this article. Someone please explain where he's going with this...
1 posted on 02/27/2010 2:19:30 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama is deeply ashamed and fearful at whatever the hell is on his original birth certificate.


2 posted on 02/27/2010 2:25:58 PM PST by FormerACLUmember (The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule. - H. L. Menken.)
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PING!!
6 posted on 02/27/2010 2:43:46 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2 million for Sarah Palin, & it won't be from Gaza or Nigeria!!)
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I am as confused as you because Charlton has not shown the documentation from Hawaii which says what dates these records pertain to. He's saying looky at these but you can't see Okubo's response that was attached to these pdf's. Hmm...
9 posted on 02/27/2010 2:46:59 PM PST by patlin (1st SCOTUS of USA: "Human life, from its commencement to its close, is protected by the common law.")
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10 posted on 02/27/2010 2:50:11 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A private detective found circumstantial evidence that Obama either IS a foreign national or commited Social Security fraud when attending college in California.

Obama, when first attending Occidental College, possessed a SSN with a prefix of 999-xx-xxxx. These SSNs are used by foreign students who receive money from the Federal Government to attend college in the U.S.A. This SSN is associated with the name Barack Obama AND an address where he is known to have lived, making it highly probable he used that SSN.

So the question is: is he or isn’t he an Indonesian citizen?

Or is BHO just a scam artist who has committed Social Security fraud and later managed to con 69 million people into voting him into the White House?


12 posted on 02/27/2010 2:52:01 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Comment from the Post and Email:


Joe says:
Saturday, February 27, 2010 at 3:27 AM

Ok, thank you for your response. So if his name is not on these printouts and we assume he was not born at home, then he was not born in HI, is that correct??

And your request was for 1961 correct??

thanks in advance
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Mr. Charlton: There are a lot of ifs, all of which must be true:
If he was not born at a hospital between 1911 and 1971, and
if his parent(s) did not file for a certificate of birth before he was 1 year old, and
if his name was not amended on the original vital record, via a name change or adoption, then if the Hawaii Birth index does not show him,
he would not be born in Hawaii, unless of course, he was born in Hawaii, but no one ever filed for a Certificate of Hawaii Birth; in which case they could have filed for a late or amended Certification of Live Birth some time after 1971.

That’s a lot of ifs…read it a couple times slowly….and if I made a mistake, I’ll let the experts correct me, here by replying to this comment.


13 posted on 02/27/2010 2:57:36 PM PST by cycle of discernment
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I’m not getting it either.


16 posted on 02/27/2010 3:01:36 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why would the author expect that a public sector employee know anything about a legally deceptive citizen status? he’s got to be dreaming!


18 posted on 02/27/2010 3:10:57 PM PST by STD (-Obama's Riding The Trojan Horse of Islam)
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Kenyan-born Obama all set for US Senate

Kenyan-born US Senate hopeful, Barrack Obama, appeared set to take over the Illinois Senate seat after his main rival, Jack Ryan, dropped out of the race on Friday night amid a furor over lurid sex club allegations.

The allegations that horrified fellow Republicans and caused his once-promising candidacy to implode in four short days have given Obama a clear lead as Republicans struggled to fetch an alternative.

Ryan’s campaign began to crumble on Monday following the release of embarrassing records from his divorce. In the records, his ex-wife, Boston Public actress Jeri Ryan, said her former husband took her to kinky sex clubs in Paris, New York and New Orleans.

"It’s clear to me that a vigorous debate on the issues most likely could not take place if I remain in the race," Ryan, 44, said in a statement. "What would take place, rather, is a brutal, scorched-earth campaign – the kind of campaign that has turned off so many voters, the kind of politics I refuse to play."

Although Ryan disputed the allegations, saying he and his wife went to one ‘avant-garde’ club in Paris and left because they felt uncomfortable, lashed out at the media and said it was "truly outrageous" that the Chicago Tribune got a judge to unseal the records.

The Republican choice will become an instant underdog in the campaign for the seat of retiring Republican Senator Peter Fitzgerald, since Obama held a wide lead even before the scandal broke.

"I feel for him actually," Obama told a Chicago TV station. "What he’s gone through over the last three days I think is something you wouldn’t wish on anybody."

The Republican state committee must now choose a replacement for Ryan, who had won in the primaries against seven contenders. Its task is complicated by the fact that Obama holds a comfortable lead in the polls and is widely regarded as a rising Democratic star.

The chairwoman of the Illinois Republican Party, Judy Topinka, said at a news conference, after Ryan withdrew, that Republicans would probably take several weeks to settle on a new candidate.

"Obviously, this is a bad week for our party and our state," she said.

As recently as Thursday, spokesmen for the Ryan campaign still insisted that Ryan would remain in the race. Ryan had defended himself saying, "There’s no breaking of any laws. There’s no breaking of any marriage laws. There’s no breaking of the Ten Commandments anywhere."


21 posted on 02/27/2010 3:24:52 PM PST by HighlyOpinionated (He has refused his Assent to Laws. He has erected a multitude of New Offices. Who? Obama!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Las Vegas Ron
I missed this.

I also missed what might have proceeded this which could explain why the surname PAYNE is involved.

WHO is Payne??

And if that is BHO's real birth surname, then what was his given name?

34 posted on 02/27/2010 3:58:03 PM PST by hennie pennie
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I think OBOZO is VERY PROUD of what is on HIS Original Long Form Birth Certificate!! But knows IT DISQUALIFIES HIM TO LEGITIMATELY HOLD THE OFFICE of POTUS!! OBOZO also Loves the Fact that He has Scammed AMERICA, Our HISTORY, Our CULTURE, Our FOREFATHERS and OUR AMERICAN CONSTITUTION!!
Lets remember his Fondling of His Crotch rather than saluting Our Flag and demanding that Chief Justice Roberts swear him in a second time WITHOUT OUR CHRISTIAN BIBLE!!
Does anybody believe the President of the United States couldn’t order up a Bible on 2 minutes notice, let alone the time it took to set up the second Oath!! REPULSIVE!!
But then why would a MUSLIM that Hates AMERICA, accept being sworn in on a Infidel’s Bible?


36 posted on 02/27/2010 4:29:43 PM PST by True Republican Patriot (May GOD Continue to BLESS Our Great President George W. Bush!!)
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Ok, I must be confused because I don’t see the smoke of a gun here.
It appears Mr. Charlton is upset because Okubo sent him pdf’s instead of microfiche. And it appears that the Index may be incomplete because some Dunhams who sailed on the Breckenridge didn’t find their way onto the Index. How accurate is any govt index anyway?
On the other hand, there ought to be other indexes, no? Like one listing the names of all people who received bc’s in 1961...and another for those who got them in 1964...and so forth. One would think the index wouldn’t be very personal information not permitted to be seen by the public. It’s just an index. In an ideal world it would also say what drawer the document lies in. Give it a number. If it is an index with cross-references, so that not only the newborn but the parents are listed, perhaps that could be considered confidential and in that case it could be redacted.

If there is no such master index, that would be extraordinary. There has to be one. Either he’s on it or not.

And that includes the possibility that he only got a bc from HI later in life. That’s what addenda are for, so you check the 1961 index again, or the index for each year after until you find him somewhere.

By the way, didn’t his grandmother work with vital records? Maybe instead of looking for his bc we should be looking for whatever she did that she shouldn’t have, like obtaining phony ssn’s for him...or someone else.

Maybe what he’s hiding isn’t so much the bc per se, but some other mischief that was done using the bc.


38 posted on 02/27/2010 4:39:34 PM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (STOP the Tyrananny State.)
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This may or may not have any relation to this article but I am sure others may have noticed what I saw earlier today and that was Obamas briefing about the Chilean earthquake, in summary he was distracted and seemed more anxious to be somewhere else, it was such a short speech I was wondering if some other crisis was developing.

Since I was interested in other threads since 3am I have not had to opportunity to update myself on current and somewhat “interesting” birther events or news.


40 posted on 02/27/2010 4:45:17 PM PST by Eye of Unk ("Either you are with us or you are for the terrorists." ~~George W. Bush)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I've been following this since the beginning but I can't make much sense out of this article. Someone please explain where he's going with this...

I'm glad you said that...I was feeling kind of stupid there.

45 posted on 02/27/2010 5:28:34 PM PST by DouglasKC
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