Posted on 02/27/2010 6:51:20 AM PST by marktwain
I have just released our latest map over at OpenCarry.org. It categorizes all 50 states based upon the kinds of firearms registration laws (if any) that the state has implemented.
This is a resource that we should have developed long ago because registration is one of the great myths and misconceptions about firearms in America. I have been teaching firearm safety and carry permit classes for almost a decade now and this is a topic that I have to cover in every single class. And it never ceases to amaze me how gun owners who are otherwise incredibly well informed about the laws regarding firearms will blithely tell me that their guns are “registered.”
At the heart of this misunderstanding lies the background check required for all purchases from a federally licensed firearms dealer. Faced with the bureaucratic detail of the BATFE 4473 form, many gun owners mistakenly think that the firearm is being “registered” at the same time that the background check is being conducted.
But nothing could be further from the truth. In fact, the same law that mandates the background check also prohibits the data being used for registration purposes and requires that all data thus collected be destroyed other than the identifying number and the date the number was assigned.
This explains why gun owners are confused about registration, but what about non-gun owners? The fault here lies almost exclusively with the media (TV shows, movies and news reports). From CSI to NCIS to daytime soap operas, registration is presented as a given, even in those states where registration is specifically banned by state law.
(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...
Don’t trust the map. It is wrong about my state. There may be others...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2460270/posts
Best regards,
"Gun Permits: Firearms are not required to be registered with local law enforcement officials, but the Nassau County [Fla.] Sherriff's Office does provide registration forms for residents wishing to register their ownership. Applications for Statewide Concealed Carry permits may be obtained at"...
Yeah, lemme get right on that! /s
Well, can you at least tell us which state it is wrong about? It will not be corrected if the author doesn’t know what state that you refer to.
WHY THEY WANT OUR GUNS!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j73SsNFgBO4
DISARMED GERMAN JEWS AND THE HOLOCAUST!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cg9q9sxJFnA
“The beauty of the Second Amendment is that we will never need it until they come to take it away.” Thomas Jefferson
“A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity.”
Sigmund Freud
Registration of firearms is voluntary in NJ.
Hanguns however require a permit to purchase. Each permit is serialized and expires 90 days from issuance(renewable an additional 90).
The state police and local police each get one part of the 4 part form(purchaser and seller, the other 2).
These forms get filed and are never destroyed. This is defacto registration.
” . . . and requires that all data thus collected be destroyed other than the identifying number and the date the number was assigned.”
I’m not sure I necessarily believe that it is actually destroyed. I used to litigate commercial cases. Most of the time, someone saves a copy.
As a resident of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, I’m under the distinct impression that ALL firearms owned by ANYONE are PERMANENTLY registered in the offices of the Department of Public Safety.
When I did a quick look on the net, I saw requirements for firearm licenses for people, but I did not see a requirement for registration of firearms.
At time and point of sale throughout Massachusetts, it is required that ALL dealers fill out and sign state forms; these must be signed by the purchaser, as well - and copies of these forms are sent to the Commonwealth’s Office of Public Safety in all cases. The forms are kept on file in perpetuity. This is, in effect, universal, state-wide registration. In other words, they know precisely what you’ve got at all times.
Is Massachusetts one of those minority of states that require private sales of firearms to have prior approval of the state?
Mass.
See form FA-10
Firearm SN, description, seller, and buyer are entered in a database (CHSB) for all firearms, long and short. Law applies to all transfers FFL or private.
But my point stands, check your local laws — just because it isn’t called registration, doesn’t mean it isn’t.
Verify, THEN trust...
Yes, the local governments must be watched very carefully. The Federal government and the people should be a check on local governments to protect our rights. The three branches of Federal government are all supposed to be checks on each other, but that concept has been subverted. I asked a Senator once about upholding his oath of office by finding a law unconstitutional, and he said that “was the job of the Supreme Court”. What good is his oath of office, then?
They could cover the entire Bill of Rights with just a single form. They could just list them all with boxes and you check off which ones you want to waive. [facepalm]
To be honest, I haven’t entered into a private sale in quite a while, so I couldn’t say. Once upon a time, long ago, we’d get a blue file card from a gun shop, fill it out, then both parties would sign it and send it in to the Commonwealth’s Department of Public Safety. I’m just not sure if that’s still what we’re doing or not, but I’m fairly certain we don’t need prior approval of the state.
Fact is, we have a pretty active and pretty strong local gun organization - Gun Owners’ Action League, or GOAL - and they’ve done a magnificent job of keeping the Massachusetts state government honest - especially considering the popularity of the Leftist gun grabbers out here.
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