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New Orleans case should send chilling message to those who think ‘only cops should have guns’
Seattle Gun Rights Examiner ^ | 25 February, 2010 | Dave Workman

Posted on 02/26/2010 7:49:45 AM PST by marktwain

It became a national disgrace that prompted a landmark federal lawsuit, and led to the passage of legislation in several states to make sure nothing like this ever happened again on American soil: the unilateral disarmament of law-abiding citizens in the wake of a disaster.

And now the story has taken an even darker turn than it did in the months following Hurricane Katrina’s devastation of New Orleans, when police and National Guard units illegally and unconstitutionally seized, often at gunpoint, firearms held by private citizens who had done nothing wrong. No police or public official has ever been held accountable for that outrage, and that possibility will likely take a distant back seat to holding several police officers responsible for gunning down unarmed citizens on the Danziger Bridge on Sept. 4, 2005.

"When another police investigator told Lieutenant Lohman that he was going to plant a gun under the bridge to bolster the story that the officers were being fired at, Lieutenant Lohman went along, and even asked if the gun was traceable, the authorities said."

Those who would support the confiscation of private firearms by police with no probable cause and without due process—regardless whether there has been a natural or man-made disaster—should explain their logic to the families of James Brissette, then 19, and Ronald Madison, a mentally-disabled 40-year-old, both of whom were killed. Four other people were wounded and on Wednesday, a retired New Orleans police lieutenant pleaded guilty to covering up the circumstances of the shooting.

(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...


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"It became a national disgrace that prompted a landmark federal lawsuit, and led to the passage of legislation in several states to make sure nothing like this ever happened again on American soil: the unilateral disarmament of law-abiding citizens in the wake of a disaster."

The money quote.

1 posted on 02/26/2010 7:49:46 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

In a disaster, the only way that ANYONE is getting my guns is going to be bullets first.


2 posted on 02/26/2010 7:53:42 AM PST by Grunthor (The more people I meet, the more I love my dogs.)
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To: marktwain

A law - words - won’t stop armed thugs, whether or not in police uniforms, from trying to disarm law-abiding citizens...


3 posted on 02/26/2010 7:54:35 AM PST by piytar (Ammo is hard to find! Bought some lately? Please share where at www.ammo-finder.com)
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To: marktwain
This is probably a good reason for having the serial/model information from your weapons written down and stashed in a safe place. If I understand this problem from previous writings, these people can't even prove which weapons belonged to them.

The people who committed this crime need, very badly, to be brought to justice.

4 posted on 02/26/2010 7:54:40 AM PST by davisfh ( Islam is a very serious mental and social illness)
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To: marktwain
there is no legislation that will stop rogue police or out of control tyrants and their lackeys from doing whatever they want
5 posted on 02/26/2010 7:55:42 AM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: paul51

“there is no legislation that will stop rogue police or out of control tyrants and their lackeys from doing whatever they want”

What you have stated is true, it takes more than legislation to stop them, it takes will and force to do so.

It is a good idea to have the legislation in place, however, so that if you make it to court, you have a fighting chance.


6 posted on 02/26/2010 8:02:06 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Oathkeeper bump


7 posted on 02/26/2010 8:04:02 AM PST by CPT Clay (Pick up your weapon and follow me.)
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To: marktwain

It takes a lot of moral force and courage to buck the government when their armed agents come after you. That’s why they’ve been able to get away with so much for as long as governments have existed. Our history of armed citizenry makes it much harder to do here, but not impossible.


8 posted on 02/26/2010 8:04:38 AM PST by Batrachian (And then Barack the First said: "Now that we have the Papacy, let us enjoy it.")
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To: marktwain

I just read multiple complaints on this thread about not questioning police authority:

Woman, 61, arrested for asking ‘why’[Georgia]

Seems like freerepublic has a dual personality when it comes to police actions.


9 posted on 02/26/2010 8:06:15 AM PST by AlmaKing
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To: AlmaKing
Seems like freerepublic has a dual personality when it comes to police actions.

My dual personality is Henry Bowman and Wilson Blair when it comes to anti-gunners.

10 posted on 02/26/2010 8:21:12 AM PST by DCBryan1 (FORGET the lawyers...first kill the "journalists".)
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To: marktwain
Germans who wish to use firearms should join the SS or the SA - ordinary citizens don't need guns, as their having guns doesn't serve the State.

Heinrich Himmler

11 posted on 02/26/2010 8:22:45 AM PST by mewzilla (I'm not a socialist. Heck, yes, I hope Barry fails. Sheesh.)
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To: Grunthor
In a disaster, the only way that ANYONE is getting my guns is going to be bullets first.

I agree with you.

Bill O'Reilly said that the Second Amendment and the Constitution were "silly" under the Katrina state of emergency circumstances.

As usual, O'Reilly displayed his ignorance and lack of common sense.

12 posted on 02/26/2010 8:24:58 AM PST by Cobra64
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To: davisfh

Absolutely keep a list secured away from your home (multiple copies/locations)

Decades ago, my home was burglarized. I lost several handguns. I knew make and model but had to go back to the shop where I purchased them to get serial numbers for the police report and insurance claim. This only worked because I had a great relationship with the shop owner and he let me combe through the paper files to find my info, took all afternoon.

and thanks for the reminder, I need to make a new list and drop it at... well were is a secret, but thanks for the reminder.


13 posted on 02/26/2010 8:39:00 AM PST by lack-of-trust
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To: paul51

Which is why the Second Amendment exists in the first place.


14 posted on 02/26/2010 8:50:58 AM PST by snowrip (Liberal? YOU ARE A SOCIALIST WITH NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT.)
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To: marktwain

And this is why I have NO use for Bobby Jindal. His FIRST ACTION should have been a very public investigation of these criminal goings on. The trampling of 2nd amendment is THE most serious breach of our Constitutional rights. Jindal has done NOTHING to try and imprison the offenders. Inexcusable.


15 posted on 02/26/2010 8:52:05 AM PST by Oldpuppymax
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To: mewzilla

“Germans who wish to use firearms should join the SS or the SA - ordinary citizens don’t need guns, as their having guns doesn’t serve the State.”

Heinrich Himmler

He sure enough wanted them to have guns once they had lost the war.


16 posted on 02/26/2010 9:06:30 AM PST by marktwain
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To: NFHale; hiredhand; Squantos
WATCH the linked vid...

this is precisely why the 'laws' since NFA34 all need to be gone...only when a citizen can match the firepower in their faces will they have the stones to resist this kind of tyranny...

dude that bodyslammed granny should be bubbas bitch somewhere in maximum security general population...

17 posted on 02/26/2010 10:20:43 AM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: marktwain

My family has been packin` since 1647.


18 posted on 02/26/2010 10:32:01 AM PST by bunkerhill7 (God bless)
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To: marktwain

We need to crack down hard on officers that break their oath and enforce such illegal orders. This is unacceptable, and they should know that.

The officers themselves in taking that oath were responsible for enforcing the Constitutional law above all.

The Officers of the united States are NOT suppose to be mindless drones blindly carrying out whatever orders they reserve. If they were they would never have been allowed to take the Constitutional oath.


19 posted on 02/26/2010 1:01:23 PM PST by Monorprise
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To: marktwain

We need to crack down hard on officers that break their oath and enforce such illegal orders. This is unacceptable, and they should know that.

The officers themselves in taking that oath were responsible for enforcing the Constitutional law above all.

The Officers of the united States are NOT suppose to be mindless drones blindly carrying out whatever orders they reserve. If they were they would never have been allowed to take the Constitutional oath.


20 posted on 02/26/2010 1:01:24 PM PST by Monorprise
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