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"Appeals court: We're listening to eligibility case (re: Kerchner v. Obama)"

why Cheney?

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between this and AZ tyring to pass a proof of citizenship law maybe we can force the marxist to show his BC

He might have bveen prophetic ( ?? are muslims naturally prophetic) when he said he’d be a one trm POTUS>

Serious Question, why are so many Repubs so ugly to people who just want to see his real BC?

This ain’t that special. All the appelate court has allowed is an over long brief to be filed. That says NOTHING about how they will rule or what aguments they will find useful

Kind of like when a judge allows great leeway to some defendant acting as his own attorney. Doesn’t change the outcome

From the article:

"WND has reported on dozens of legal challenges to Obama's status as a "natural born citizen." The Constitution, Article 2, Section 1, states, "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President."

So EITHER a NBC or Citizen of US is eligible to become President? Does this mean even if Obama SR was NOT an American citizen, MAO-bama is elgible since his mother was a citizen & he was born in HI? And the latter is another BIG question mark!

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Proof of DNC Corruption ignored by DOJ and SCOTUS
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Altered voting certificates by Pelosi for election fraud for the DNC

Exhibit 1: (the original, but discarded) states:
”THIS IS TO CERTIFY that at the National Convention of the Democrat Party of the
United States of America, held in Denver, Colorado on August 25 though 28, 2008, the
following were duly nominated as candidates of said Party for President and Vice
President of the United States respectively and that the following candidates for President
and Vice President of the United States are legally qualified to serve under the provisions
of the United States Constitution:”

Exhibit 2: specifically leaves out the qualifying requirement:
”THIS IS TO CERTIFY that at the National Convention of the Democrat Party of the
United States of America, held in Denver, Colorado on August 25 though 28, 2008, the
following were duly nominated as candidates of said Party for President and Vice
President of the United States respectively:”

Exhibit 3: More altered documents where the natural born requirement
Check off box … was removed.

“D.C. Tech Official Is Accused of Bribery(Birth Certificate Forgery)
A D.C. government official and a business executive were arrested yesterday on bribery
charges involving city technology contracts that included "ghost" workers and
kickbacks, federal authorities said. Until recently, the technology office was headed
by Vivek Kundra, who has taken a job as President Obama's chief information officer.
A White House official confirmed last night that Kundra has taken a leave of absence.
“Yusuf Acar, 40, who has worked in the technology office since 2004, was charged with
bribery, conspiracy, money laundering and conflict of interest.
Assistant U.S. Attorney Thomas Hibarger told a federal judge that Acar is a flight risk because agents
seized $70,000 in cash in his house and because in recorded conversations, he boasted that he could easily flee to his native Turkey.
Acar also told the informant that he could use
computers to create fake D.C. birth certificates, Hibarger said. “

“The Hippies Who "Certified" Obama (Get a look at the 2 child-hippies who certified our "president")”

Kenya Sunday Standard headline — “Kenyan-born Obama all set for US Senate”

The Nigerian Observer — “Americans will today go to the polls to elect their next President with Democratic Party candidate, Senator Barack Obama largely favoured to win. The Kenyan-born Senator will…”

USAfrica — “Kenyan-born OBAMA makes history…wins presidential nomination of U. S. Democratic party; eyes on White House…”

AllAfrica.com — ” Little wonder then why Kenyan-born Barack Obama, America’s first Black President…”

GraphicGhana.com — “For Ghana, Obama’s visit will be a celebration of another milestone in African history as it hosts the first-ever African-American President on this
presidential visit to the continent of his birth.” The same article, with the same quote, appeared in ModernGhana.com.

The Ghana Times — “So far, the odds favour the once underdog in American politics, Obama, the African-American Senator from Illinois state. A Congressional Quarterly
(CQ) politics monitored on BBC put the Kenyan born American ahead of his rivel, John McCain.”

From the comment section:
(”AmericanDaughter“) NPR.org — “…She also describes the stories that have been exciting, including the U.S. presidential race of Kenyan-born Sen. Barack Obama.”

(”AmericanDaughter“) AllAfrica.com — “Kampala — Ugandans have formed a group to mobilise support for Kenyan born-senator, Barack Obama for the US presidency.” "

“Kenyan Historian: It's Odd that Kenyan Luo Tribe Member (Obama) Elected President in US Before Kenya (Audio)
We already knew that Barack Obama's brother Malik was a Luo activist and a militant Muslim
who argued that the black man must "liberate himself from the poisoning influences of European culture."

“Article in Nairobi Paper June 2004 - Barack born in Africa
An ongoing poll by AOL News currently shows that 58% of Americans have doubts
about Obama’s citizenship. The poll was started on July 28 and continues — you can go
here to vote. And lest you think that this survey is being conducted in a very anti-Obama
venue, the title of the article is Birthers, Beer and Stuck on ‘Stupidly’ — it is an
environment contemptuous of skeptics. So we can conclude that the results of their poll
are not what they were hoping for.

A scant five years ago, Barack Obama was a little known Illinois state politician, aspiring
to move up to the United States Senate. Undoubtedly, the Marxist handlers behind this
Manchurian candidate had long range plans to capture the US presidency since he was
groomed as a youth by Frank Marshall Davis. But the general public and the press were
not privy to this information.

At that time, there would have been no reason to fabricate a story about Obama’s birth
that would disqualify him for the highest US office. This would be especially true for an
African paper that was simply proud of their native son. So it is reasonable to take the
press clippings of the day at face value. The following item has been on the web all
along, but apparently did not get much attention. It is a June 2004 article from the online
version of the East African Standard, an English-language paper published in Nairobi,
Kenya, titled Kenyan-born Obama all set for US Senate.“

Br> “US Presidential Polls:Obama, McCain slug it out today
WASHINGTON – Americans will today go to the polls to elect their next President with
Democratic Party candidate, Senator Barack Obama largely favoured to win.
The Kenyan-born Senator will, however, face a stiff competition from his Republican
counterpart, John McCain who has taken the presidential battle to the finishing line with
vigorous campaign strategies.”

“Americans Decide Today - go Obama (this site hasn't been scrubbed yet)
So far, the odds favour the once underdog in American politics, Obama, the African-American Senator from Illinois State .
A Congressional Quarterly (CQ) politics monitored on BBC put the Kenyan born American ahead of his rival, Senator McCain.”

“D.C. Tech Official Is Accused of Bribery(Birth Certificate Forgery)
A D.C. government official and a business executive were arrested yesterday on bribery
charges involving city technology contracts that included "ghost" workers and
kickbacks, federal authorities said. Until recently, the technology office was headed
by Vivek Kundra, who has taken a job as President Obama's chief information officer.
A White House official confirmed last night that Kundra has taken a leave of absence.
“Yusuf Acar, 40, who has worked in the technology office since 2004, was charged with
bribery, conspiracy, money laundering and conflict of interest.
Assistant U.S. Attorney Thomas Hibarger told a federal judge that Acar is a flight risk because agents
seized $70,000 in cash in his house and because in recorded conversations, he boasted that he could easily flee to his native Turkey.
Acar also told the informant that he could use
computers to create fake D.C. birth certificates, Hibarger said. “

"Security Breach May Lead To Obama Natural Born Status
A series of 2008 security breaches at the US State Department may indicate that someone knows Barack Obama’s true status as a natural born citizen - and is waiting for the right time to reveal it. The breaches, which occurred on January 9, February 21 and March 14 of 2008, were done by two “low level” contractors and another in a mid-level position with no management role.
... An investigation of the incidents revealed that all three major presidential candidates - Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, and John McCain - had their passport files compromised.
... News of the security breaches prompted a statement from then-Senator Joseph Biden, who had not yet been chosen as Obama’s running mate. Biden, who was chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, had oversight of the Foreign Service and the passport office.

“I am deeply troubled that State Department contract employees sought access to Sen. Barack Obama’s passport files,” the statement from Biden read. “Firing or disciplining those responsible is an important first step. But we need to understand why these employees had access to this information in the first place, why they sought the information, and why it took over two months for this matter to come to light. I urge the Secretary of State to promptly refer this matter to the State Department Inspector General for investigation.”
... On April 5, 2008, Deputy Assistant Secretary for Passport Services Ann Barrett resigned from her post after a credit card scheme using US passport date was uncovered by the security probe. State Department Spokesman Tom Casey told The Washington Times that 24-year-old Lieutenant Quarles Harris Jr. told federal authorities he obtained “passport information from a co-conspirator who works for the U.S. Department of State.”

From The Washington Times report:
The investigation began after Metropolitan Police on March 25 pulled over Mr. Harris in Southeast on suspicion that the windows of his vehicle were tinted too darkly.
After searching Mr. Harris and his vehicle, police found marijuana and 21 credit cards that were not issued in his name or the name of a female passenger with him. Police also found eight printouts of State Department passport applications, and four of the names on the applications matched four of the credit cards.
Upon questioning by agents from the U.S. Secret Service, U.S. Postal Service and State Department, Mr. Harris “admitted he obtained the passport information” from a State Department employee, court documents say.

Mr. Harris also said the fraud ring submitted credit-card applications using the names and “identifying information” of the persons listed on the passport applications, and that a postal service employee then would intercept the cards before they were delivered to the appropriate residences.
Then, on April 17, 2008, Lt. Harris was found fatally shot dead slumped over the steering wheel of his car in front of the Judah House Praise Baptist Church in Northeast DC."

Key Witness in Presidential Passport Tampering Case Murdered in 2008, No Arrests
On April 8, 2008, Obama confessed to having taken a trip to Pakistan in 1981. Here is what Obama said - Jake Tapper was there:
"So when I speak about having lived in Indonesia for four years, having family that is impoverished in small villages in Africa --knowing the leaders is not important -- what I know is the people...I traveled to Pakistan when I was in college -- I knew what Sunni and Shia was [sic] before I joined the Senate Foreign Relations Committee."
... Much speculation has been made about what national passport Obama used when he traveled to Pakistan in 1981.
So Obama confessed to this trip two weeks after his passport was tampered with.

.... A key witness in a federal probe into passport information stolen from the State Department was fatally shot in front of a District church, the Metropolitan Police Department said yesterday. Lt. Quarles Harris Jr., 24, who had been cooperating with a federal investigators, was found late Thursday night slumped dead inside a car, in front of the Judah House Praise Baptist Church in Northeast, said Cmdr. Michael Anzallo, head of the department's Criminal Investigations Division.
Cmdr. Anzallo said a police officer was patrolling the neighborhood when gunshots were heard, then Lt. Harris was found dead inside the vehicle, which investigators would describe only as a blue car."

"Mysterious Dead Person Connected To 2008 Elections
The Washington Times reported April 5 that contractors for the State Department had improperly accessed passport information
for presidential candidates Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton, Barack Obama and John McCain, which resulted in a series of firings that reached into the agency's top ranks."

Clearing the Smoke on Obama’s Eligibility: An Intelligence Investigator’s June 10 Report
"The Territorial Public Health Statistics Act in the 1955 Revised Laws of Hawaii
In the State of Hawaii, back in 1961, there were four different ways to get an “original birth certificate” on record.
BC1. If the birth was attended by a physician or mid wife, the attending medical professional was required to certify to the Department of Health the facts of the birth date, location, parents’ identities and other information. (See Section 57-8 & 9 of the Territorial Public Health Statistics Act in the 1955 Revised Laws of Hawaii which was in effect in 1961).

governor, or his secretary, or such other person as he may designate or appoint from his office” §338-41 [in 1961]).

In 1982, the vital records law was amended to create a fifth kind of “original birth certificate”. Under Act 182 H.B. NO. 3016-82, “Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that the proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child.”
In this way “state policies and procedures” accommodate even “children born out of State” (this is the actual language of Act 182) with an “original birth certificate on record.”

I think this is the only way that the USofA will be rid of the Marxist destruction of our Country and the Judges know this.

Don't for a second think that Chief Justice Roberts did not know that 0bama wasn't eligible to be POTUS. He was so nervous he couldn't administer the oath of office correctly at the inauguration.

There won't be any ‘riots’ as Bush told all the Media to give them a reason to put the quash on any of their employees who might be interested in going after the birth story. Why else would the FoxNews entertainers make jokes about birthers being ‘crazy?’

The Alphabet Soup Media will attempt to raise up riots as will the faux-colored people's groups. But it's always the down-towns of cities where many blacks have businesses that get destroyed. Conservatives should advertise who's responsible for the fake in the White House and use it to replace those Democrats and some Republicans in Congress in November.

This is not going away, people know when they are being hood winked by a politician and will demand the truth.

Whoa, Yorick!!! Do we really want Biden’s aneurism or Pelosi’s botox running the White House?

This is the issue that needs to be determined in court. Is a child born within the jurisdiction of the US, to a citizen mother and a father who is a foreigner constitutionally eligible to be president?

After much research, I have concluded that the answer is no - that was not the meaning of Natural Born Citizen in Article II of the constitution.

However, it has never been determined definitively in a court of law, and legal scholars as well as the American people differ on their opinion of the issue.

Many people assume that just being born in America or having a parent who is a citizen is sufficient. When told that it might not actually be that way legally, they shrug and say well it should be.

I believe that a conservative court would be inclined to be stricter and uphold the original intent, but not at this time. I believe the courts are likely to dodge the issue, as being appropriately a question for the legislature.

Further more, the media reported the BC issue,(in a ridiculing way) Obama freely admitted his father was a British citizen, and the American people voted for him anyway. The people are Sovereign, and the people have spoken, courts will not be willing to overturn an election.

I truly believe the only way to insure this does not happen again, is for the states to address it in their election rules. The secretary of state for each state should certify the eligibility of candidates.

The legislatures of each state should specify by statute what the necessary documentation is, and what their interpretation of the term natural born means. Court challenges to the state laws might wind up in the Supreme Court, but at least the issue would have been determined.

Another way would be to amend the constitution to define the term, and have the states ratify. Passing a statute is not sufficient. Congress has the power to specify naturalization laws, but not to determine what is constitutional.

I find the legal issue to be interesting, and so I like to follow whats happening, but the main goal we all need is to make sure conservatives replace liberals and socialists in 2010.

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I loved this from the article....LOL

On Apuzzo’s website, a forum page participant said, “It will be interesting to see how Mr. Obama’s legal team stretches, ‘We have nada!’ into 14,000 words.”

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