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To: John-Irish

I couldn’t agree more.

Tenure should be banned. No tax money to teachers’ unions. They’re all collectivist/Marxist in nature.

Support vouchers so that there is a double hit, once when the taxpayer’s take their money away from their local school and again when they put it into an alternative school that is successful.


11 posted on 02/21/2010 5:10:57 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
They’re all collectivist/Marxist in nature.
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Exactly! You are one of the few that “get it”!

Simply by attending children learn that the government has the power to do two things:

1) Take money from their neighbor to pay for a service their parents want tuition-free. And...Their progressive teachers ( from the very beginning in the mid-1800s) have taught several generations of voters that it is their “right” to have this “free” service.

2) Treat people ( students) who have committed no crime like they were prisoners. Children learn that the government has the police power to strip them ( and indirectly their parents) of EVERY First Amendment Right! Our government schools are like prisons. There is no right to free speech, press, exercise of religion, or freedom to assemble with people of the parents’ and children's choosing. And...The government establishes a godless worldview every minute of every school day!

So?...After a mere 3 generations of government indoctrinated children we had the beginnings of the “progressive” fascist state:

***The IRS
***the federal reserve
*** direct election of Senators
*** Unions
*** feminist movement
*** the failed League of Nations followed by the abominable U.N.
*** FDR and his New Deal elected four times
*** Johson’s Great Society
*** the abolishment of the gold standard
*** and a thousand socialist programs and agencies

All of the above is due to my great grandparents, grandparents, and parents being made to feel completely comfortable with taking their neighbor's money by attending socialist modeled government schools!

Government schools have ****always**** been a progressive Utopian wet dream! The push has ***always** been toward increasing secularism followed by what is now pure atheistic Marxism. The Utopian progressives have ***always** been in control of teacher training and textbook development.

Government schools can NOT be fixed because they ARE SOCIALISM!!!! Socialism can not be fixed. It must be abolished.

And..Yes,...I am shouting. You are among the few conservatives who understand the problem. It is amazing how stooooopid other conservatives can be about this.
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17 posted on 02/21/2010 5:24:46 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

Thats somewhat of a tough sell in this state Marlowe, always has been, vouchers I mean. The bloody unions have been used to decades of feeding at the public trough and this is coming as a shock to them. But I don’t care. Unions aren’t some protected class—as least they didn’t use to be. I’m just sick and tired of them holding me and every other NJ taxpayer over a barrel. You’d have to wonder why a state this small needs so many bloody state workers and teachers.


24 posted on 02/21/2010 5:31:26 PM PST by John-Irish ("Shame of him who thinks of it''.)
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