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Austin plane crash exposes gap in US air security
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Posted on 02/19/2010 7:38:33 PM PST by LouAvul

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To: Talisker

TSA has screwed the pooch for everybody. They are already sticking their noses in GA, most people don’t realize to what extent.

If you want to put the final nail in the coffin of capitalism, just shut down corporate aviation.


21 posted on 02/19/2010 8:07:57 PM PST by PhiloBedo (I won't be happy until Jet-A is less than $2.00 a gallon)
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To: LouAvul

Ban trucks, somebody might drive one through a lobby loaded with gasoline. Ban cars, somebody might drive one into a parking lot full of cars and ignite it. How about bass boats, somebody might run one into a dock of people or a beach.

What else can we ban that might hurt us? How about banning muslims and illegal immigrants...no, no they might have their feelings hurt. Can’t do that.

For all of you that think general aviation planes are only owned by “rich folks” think again, “common folks” enjoy them and have a right to continue to do so just as much as anyone who hunts, fishes or anything else.


22 posted on 02/19/2010 8:08:25 PM PST by Sequoyah101 (Half of the population is below average)
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To: Tolsti2

Frankly, you can kiss my Mooney lovin’, instrument rated, fast flyin’, balls to the wall, ass.

Let me stimulate your economy. This “bored wealthy” MF busts his ass every day. 10 - 12 hours. How ‘bout your slackin’ ass?

Mods, I don’t mean to flame, but if some asshat is implying that I should give up my freedom, TOLSTI2 NEEDS TO BE BANNED FROM OUR FREE REPUBLIC!!!!


23 posted on 02/19/2010 8:09:06 PM PST by SgtBob (Freedom is not for the faint of heart. Semper Fi!)
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To: PhiloBedo

All I can say is that I do, and to me it’s like ham radio but with potential to cause immense damage. A hobby.

I can barely tolerate the threat of commercial flying to the general public that doesn’t fly, much less this hobby level stuff. It’s certainly far from a necessary risk. I’ve known a lot of pilots, they use it as a lark, and as a method of travel that’s frankly not very efficient or safe. My opinion, that’s all. Don’t freak out and get all insulting people.


24 posted on 02/19/2010 8:09:23 PM PST by Tolsti2
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To: Tolsti2

I agree with Las Vegas you are a bonehead about General Aviation


25 posted on 02/19/2010 8:09:41 PM PST by al baby (Hi Mom sarc ;))
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To: Tolsti2

Like I said.


26 posted on 02/19/2010 8:11:01 PM PST by PhiloBedo (I won't be happy until Jet-A is less than $2.00 a gallon)
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To: Tolsti2

Your digging a bigger and bigger hole buddy now its past your bed time have some bosco and say good night


27 posted on 02/19/2010 8:12:00 PM PST by al baby (Hi Mom sarc ;))
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To: SgtBob

Thank God and our founders that the First Amendment LIVES!


28 posted on 02/19/2010 8:12:36 PM PST by SgtBob (Freedom is not for the faint of heart. Semper Fi!)
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To: SgtBob

You think the first amendment gives you right to GA?


29 posted on 02/19/2010 8:16:44 PM PST by Tolsti2
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To: Tolsti2
"You think the first amendment gives you right to GA?"

First amendment? Do you think my rights come from a government?
30 posted on 02/19/2010 8:19:31 PM PST by JoSixChip (HOPE = Have Obumber Prove Eligibility)
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To: LouAvul

Did Joe Stack get the person he was after in the building? My bet is that he did. Authorities won’t admit it. It doesn’t matter because someone as bad or worse will replace that person. Stupid action on Stack’s part.


31 posted on 02/19/2010 8:20:25 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: JoSixChip
I was asking him, who brought it up. Flying in public space is a privilege, same as driving on public roads. It's not a right.
32 posted on 02/19/2010 8:20:50 PM PST by Tolsti2
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To: Tolsti2

“I can barely tolerate the threat of commercial flying to the general public that doesn’t fly, much less this hobby level stuff. It’s certainly far from a necessary risk”

We’ll have to appoint a “Necessary Risk” Tsar.


33 posted on 02/19/2010 8:21:30 PM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Waste and fraud are synonymous with gov't spending)
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To: Tolsti2
"Those that would give up essential liberty in pursuit of a little temporary security deserve neither liberty nor security." - Franklin

What part of "Free" Republic do you not understand? Why don't you go home to DU...

34 posted on 02/19/2010 8:23:11 PM PST by Errant
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I’m the type that supports legalized machine guns heh.. The government limits things based on risks all the time. The TSA does, the no-fly list does. Would you take out gitmo, ban profiling, ban any security checks at airports? Probably not.

GA is, frankly, a big WMD delivery system with minimal security involved.


35 posted on 02/19/2010 8:23:58 PM PST by Tolsti2
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To: LouAvul

“The Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association, or AOPA, National Business Aviation Association, National Air Transportation Association and General Aviation Manufacturers Association spent $6 million lobbying in Washington last year. “

Part of that money was my donations!!!


36 posted on 02/19/2010 8:24:25 PM PST by dalereed
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To: Errant
I'm for constitutional freedoms. Flying is not one.

Now, obviously it couldn't be, but still. It's a privilege, not a right. I'm not a libertarian so the ‘anything goes’ to be ‘free’ thing doesn't really impact me.

37 posted on 02/19/2010 8:25:20 PM PST by Tolsti2
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To: Tolsti2

No. I think the First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States gives you the opportunity to open your mouth, and insert your friggin’ foot.

I’ve spent a mortgage on a 1971 Mooney. 50 thousand is big bucks for this backwood hack. I’ll be damned if some snarky little sh*t gives me crap about bustin’ my ass so I can live my AMERICAN DREAM!!!

The First Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America also gives me the right to say to you, FO!!!!!


38 posted on 02/19/2010 8:26:17 PM PST by SgtBob (Freedom is not for the faint of heart. Semper Fi!)
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To: Tolsti2

You don’t know what you are talking about!

Very few private aircraft owners are rich or even close to it!


39 posted on 02/19/2010 8:26:53 PM PST by dalereed
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To: SgtBob

Calm down, it also gives me the right to criticize GA. Wow, people are as sensitive to this as pot use it seems for its users. Weird!


40 posted on 02/19/2010 8:27:35 PM PST by Tolsti2
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