Posted on 02/15/2010 2:22:44 PM PST by MissesBush
>> This is a funny thread...
In context, what Joe says is not far from the truth.
Joe was both rewarded and criticized for being ordinary. Not much has changed.
lol
HE was never my hero, what he sad was HEROIC.
There’s a difference.
McCain using Joe the Plumber for the first time to help his campaign
Who can blame Joe for questioning the attacks on Obama’s birthplace when there are unequivocal grounds for questioning eligibility: Obama has told us his father was an alien. Like most people quoted in the media, and many commenting on Free Republic, the concerns about Obama’s legitimacy are focused on where he was born. How can they be sincere when all they do is distract from the facts in evidence? Perhaps Joe hasn't bothered to learn about the Constitution either, and believes the progressive propaganda that natural born citizenship was not defined clearly, or that the definition has changed? Obama told us he was illegitimate. He said his father was an alien. He told us he, the son, was born a subject of the British Commonwealth by the British Nationality Act of 1948, and had “dual citizenship at birth”. He counted on the ignorance of the public and the complicity of the press. Obama appears to have been correct.
Joe's comments about McCain were also fair, since McCain knows only too well, after two trials and four congressional hearings, that he is not a natural born citizen. Contrary to claims made in Free Republic, no court has determined that McCain was, after all, natural born. No court or statue could make that determination. Contrary to what has often been claimed by Free Republic contributors, even if Senate Resolution 511 from 2008 had been voted on, a law cannot amend the constitution. Senate Res. 511, confirms that every Senator, including Barack Obama, agrees that a natural born citizen has two citizen parents. It is a hall of mirrors, and McCain has shown he does not respect and will not protect the Constitution.
Joe's statements are certainly being selected by the state-run media, but he is making sense. I too wonder why Palin would lend her considerable influence to McCain when he has put his interests ahead of our republic's, the Constitution, and honesty?
McCain’s problem was he couldn’t articulate conservative principles as well as Joe the Plumber. They were foreign to him.
True and that’s the way to do it... everyone is very normal and no one is really a hero... and just leave it that way. Don’t make anyone “too big” and then you won’t have to knock them down later on and make them “too small”... LOL..
Just concentrate on the “issue” and forget the “person” and you (i.e., anyone) should do okay...
I understand that fully. That’s why Joe felt used and he said Obama was honest. He only meant Obama was honest in comparison to the fraudulent McLame.
I understand that fully.
Good points.
I found it funny too. Suddenly he's a persona non grata - WHY?? Not because he finally admitted McStain used him as a prop, but because even he considers Barry-the-Marxist more honest than Stain-the-Reptile.
bttt
:-)
I’m sorry to hear that Joe the Plumber has just become a bald Levi Johnson.
he had a great chance to change things and tossed it.
...maybe start a paranormal investigation team ala T.A.P.S.
Granted, McCain is pretty much a jerk politician but he didn’t screw up the plumber’s life, Bozo did. The dimwits are the ones who did all the back ground checking and smearing in the media. His trouble started way before McCain took him on the campaign trail. He is trying to suck a** with Bozo now so they will call the dogs off. Too late Joe the coward, it won’t work.
I think you are reading this backwards. What he's saying is that Obama is more honest than McCain, which is a back-handed slap at McCain, not an edorsement of Obama.
And, Obama was truthful in his one encounter with Joe, saying that he wanted to spread the wealth around. I'm wondering what it was that Joe learned about McCain.
Personally, after McCain's statement that we had nothing to fear from Obama, I am of the same opinion as Joe. McCain is lying about having any conservative positions at all. Obama has been clear about wanting a fundamental transformation of the country, even if he's fudged the details.
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