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Launching NASA on a Path to Nowhere: Analysis (4 time shuttle astronaut rips Obama plan)
Popular Mechanics ^ | February 2, 2010 | Tom Jones

Posted on 02/06/2010 12:42:42 AM PST by Names Ash Housewares

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To: Names Ash Housewares

I can see where a shuttle astronaut may be upset at losing their federal sinecure but are they really right? Maybe instead of the bureaucracy bound, inefficient government entity that is NASA we should be promoting private industry as a replacement. Announce that we’re going to contract out flights to the space station to a private firm and see how quickly and cost-effectively they can do it. See what happens.


41 posted on 02/06/2010 6:54:18 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: saganite

your cute..


42 posted on 02/06/2010 10:08:08 AM PST by gibtx2 (keep up the good work I am out of work but post 20 a month to this out of WF Check)
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To: saganite

by the way when you resort to calling names you have lost your argument... you lose again..


43 posted on 02/06/2010 10:09:09 AM PST by gibtx2 (keep up the good work I am out of work but post 20 a month to this out of WF Check)
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To: Non-Sequitur

we can no more privatize the big goals NASA chases after then privitize the US Marines!


44 posted on 02/06/2010 1:41:03 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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To: beagleone

Orion is the jewel to preserve here, it will give the next president options.

No matter what comes out of this, it must be saved.


45 posted on 02/06/2010 1:43:16 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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To: saganite

Your not interested in facts.
You have a very strong anti-NASA fetish and a near faith like expectation of commerical endeavors.

Where are th commercial space stations and moon bases if NASA sucks so much. They should have left NASA in the dust years ago.

It’s only part of the equation but that fact doesn’t register.

Obama is wrong, so are you.

It really is that simple.


46 posted on 02/06/2010 1:46:10 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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To: morkfork

Well alright! A poster on this thread who actually asks the right questions. Space-X will be launching the Falcon 9 within a few months. It’s a medium lift rocket with their Dragon capsule that has been specifically designed to accommodate astronauts. In other words, it’s man rated. The proposed launch window for the first launch starts in early March. As for Bigelow Aerospace, they have put 2 experimental capsules up already which incorporate a new technology for building habitats superior to anything NASA has up there now. The primary delay in launching follow on capsules has been lift. Once that is is available the follow on capsules will be bigger, more robust and better suited to experimentation than the ISS. Google them up. You’ll see that the privatization of space is really abut to take off.


47 posted on 02/06/2010 3:29:43 PM PST by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...
Thanks for the heads up Jet Jaguar

The list, ping

48 posted on 02/06/2010 10:28:37 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Names Ash Housewares
we can no more privatize the big goals NASA chases after then privitize the US Marines!

Why not?

49 posted on 02/07/2010 5:36:35 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

Because private enterprise isn’t in the business of positioning our nation strategically in twenty years.

They can play a part and already do! It’s nothing new, but it is not the whole ball of wax.


50 posted on 02/07/2010 12:41:28 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Names Ash Housewares

The kind of private exploration that is about to occur was prohibited for decades and has only recently been allowed. So there it is. Govt getting in the way of private enterprise. You seem to have a hatred for capitalism and private ownership and a love of govt bureaucracy, something rarely encountered on this website.


51 posted on 02/08/2010 12:51:42 AM PST by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: saganite

“You seem to have a hatred for capitalism and private ownership and a love of govt bureaucracy, something rarely encountered on this website.”

LOL
Don’t tread on me.


52 posted on 02/08/2010 1:07:38 AM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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To: saganite

“Coming soon to a launchpad near you.”

No, it’s not. Certainly not to the moon.


53 posted on 02/08/2010 6:35:59 AM PST by Favor Center (Targets Up! Hold hard and favor center!)
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To: saganite

“The kind of private exploration that is about to occur was prohibited for decades and has only recently been allowed.”

There is no “private exploration” of any real kind that is about to occur. There’s not much “exploration” to do in LEO. No private lunar missions. No private mission to Mars.

“Govt getting in the way of private enterprise.”

Government doesn’t have to. The risk/reward equation will do that nicely.


54 posted on 02/08/2010 6:42:31 AM PST by Favor Center (Targets Up! Hold hard and favor center!)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

A threat?


55 posted on 02/08/2010 9:08:32 AM PST by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: All
We are not going to the moon or mars for one simple reason, control.

Government regulations will keep privatization boxed in, unless like Space X they buy their own island.

The success of The United States, is a lesson the world will not forget. Colonies become independent, they become stronger and they almost always become FREE.

The governments of this world do not fear "aliens", they fear free off world humans.

56 posted on 02/08/2010 9:18:25 AM PST by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: Favor Center

NASA wasn’t going to the moon anyway and certainly not Mars. That was all PR which you apparently swallowed. The moon Mars program was underfunded, behind schedule and Ares wasn’t going to cut it. Better to let it die now instead of funding another Shuttle like budget buster.

As for “coming soon to a launchpad near you” it certainly is and you’re being willfully uninformed if you don’t know that. All you have to do is a little googling.


57 posted on 02/08/2010 9:19:50 AM PST by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: Names Ash Housewares; newgeezer

Obama has a broken clock moment on this one.


58 posted on 02/08/2010 9:20:37 AM PST by DungeonMaster (A Christian Democrat is better than a heathen Republican)
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To: DungeonMaster
Obama has a broken clock moment on this one.

Agreed. There's no justification for taxpayer-funded manned space flight.

Let the enthusiasts fund their own fantasies.

59 posted on 02/08/2010 9:26:53 AM PST by newgeezer (It is [the people's] right and duty to be at all times armed. --Thomas Jefferson)
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To: saganite

“NASA wasn’t going to the moon anyway and certainly not Mars. That was all PR which you apparently swallowed. “

Commercial enterprises won’t go at all. At least with some development of Orion, we’d have the equipment to go in the first place. I’ll say this again for the people in the cheap seats who do not understand this business: space exploration will NOT BE FUNDED BY PRIVATE INDUSTRY. Not for a VERY LONG TIME. The risks are too high and the rewards to low.

“As for “coming soon to a launchpad near you” it certainly is and you’re being willfully uninformed if you don’t know that. All you have to do is a little googling.”

I’m an aerospace engineer. I’m fairly current on the goings-on in my own damn field. Falcon9/Dragon is not going to be a vehicle for space exploration. We’ve already explored LEO. Sorry to burst your bubble.


60 posted on 02/08/2010 9:27:49 AM PST by Favor Center (Targets Up! Hold hard and favor center!)
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