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10 Americans in Haiti Charged With Child Kidnapping
FoxNews.com ^ | 02/04/10 | Staff

Posted on 02/04/2010 12:05:11 PM PST by OldDeckHand

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To: MarMema

Too bad Haiti isn’t jailing thugs who are killing people and stealing food.


141 posted on 02/06/2010 5:38:35 PM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: All

Break the law, go to jail; so easy, even a Baptist can do it!


142 posted on 02/07/2010 7:24:39 AM PST by Marine Inspector (I am an Oath Keeper! III)
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To: OldDeckHand

There’s nothing to indicate the woman’s background is shady. Apparently she’s made poor or risky business decisions, yes, but there’s no indication she was trying to take these kids to the states or the DR for illicit purposes. Nothing whatsoever indicates that. See post #122.

People who take the claim of a suspicious, corrupt, banana republic tinpot dictator about what a group of your countrymen are supposedly up to, and then conflate that with some lawsuits over money (which is what 99.999999999% of all lawsuits are about) to come up with “shady deal” are just plain gullible and easily susceptible to the power of suggestion.


143 posted on 02/08/2010 12:57:56 AM PST by chilltherats (First, kill all the lawyers (now that they ARE the tyrants).......)
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To: wardaddy

Thank you.


144 posted on 02/08/2010 12:58:32 AM PST by chilltherats (First, kill all the lawyers (now that they ARE the tyrants).......)
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To: MarMema

You’re a sick mofo.


145 posted on 02/08/2010 12:59:54 AM PST by chilltherats (First, kill all the lawyers (now that they ARE the tyrants).......)
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To: chilltherats
"there’s no indication she was trying to take these kids to the states or the DR for illicit purposes. Nothing whatsoever indicates that."

You might want to read the following post from another thread as well as the referenced news story. It doesn't bode well for Sibley.

http://www.freerepublic.com./focus/news/2445999/posts?page=13#13

"some lawsuits over money (which is what 99.999999999% of all lawsuits are about) to come up with “shady deal” are just plain gullible and easily susceptible to the power of suggestion."

I think the point of being shady is precisely to defraud or liberate people of their money, in some way. It's not surprising then that 99.9% of lawsuits against a "shady" person, are about money. When there are multiple lawsuits pending or litigated against someone because that someone has repeatedly failed to do as promised, I think it's perfectly reasonable to question or explore the legitimacy of those business dealings to begin with.

Business people face litigation constantly. But, honest business people win more of those claims than they lose, in my professional experience.

146 posted on 02/08/2010 5:50:35 AM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: AppyPappy
Stealing children is worse than stealing food.

this woman is seriously evil or sick

"The Pickett's say the missionary charged with kidnapping in Haiti, tried to take their children. While Richard Pickett was in Haiti, Malinda received three separate phone calls from laura Silsby saying she wanted to help out. "When they get to the Dominican, I'll help you get them over. And I told her no," said Malinda, "my husband is over in Haiti advocating for our adoption to be finished and get our kids home and you know at this time I don't think we need any help." Malinda says the phone calls raised some red flags. "Do you realize?" she asked Silsby, "we've been waiting 5 years to get our children, you know it's not that easy to just go to Haiti and pick up kids. You know, you can't do that."

"She kept persisting, and Malinda kept saying no, don't bother our children," said Richard, "and Laura decided to show up at the orphanage anyway, and ask for our children, and said that malinda had sent her there. And our children were not there at the time, they were with me."

147 posted on 02/08/2010 10:45:42 AM PST by MarMema (chains we can believe in)
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To: chilltherats
Ten days ago she gave away her youngest daughter, 12-year-old Benatide, to a group of American Baptists who promised to give her a better life abroad by finding a Christian family to adopt her.
148 posted on 02/08/2010 10:48:11 AM PST by MarMema (chains we can believe in)
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To: chilltherats
Same link as my post to you above...

"But, revealingly, the mission statement of her New Life organisation specifically says its purpose was to get Haitian children for adoption in the U.S.. Some parents of the 33 children were told that living in the Dominican Republic would be a first step towards their offspring going to new families in America."

149 posted on 02/08/2010 10:53:27 AM PST by MarMema (chains we can believe in)
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To: MarMema

And? What is your point? There’s nothing in your bold quotation to suggest she was trying to get her hands on these kids for illicit purposes, either into the DR or the U.S., which I have already stated twice now.

If you have a point, make it.


150 posted on 02/09/2010 2:04:40 AM PST by chilltherats (First, kill all the lawyers (now that they ARE the tyrants).......)
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To: MarMema

So.......are you saying that you know clairvoyantly this would be done for illicit purposes? What evidence is there that this woman was attempting to get control of these kids to traffic in children for illicit purposes? Is having them adopted by Christian families sexually offensive to you or just plain offensive.... or.....what?

If you have something, let’s see it. If you don’t, find something else to do besides repeating the same quotations over and over.


151 posted on 02/09/2010 2:09:02 AM PST by chilltherats (First, kill all the lawyers (now that they ARE the tyrants).......)
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To: OldDeckHand

I didn’t say 99.9% of lawsuits are against “shady” people. I said they are about money. In this case, the main lawsuits were about wages or alleged contractual sums due, not fraudulent efforts to actually get money from another person. Big difference.

Sibley’s business dealings were probably not well considered to begin with, but that doesn’t make them fraudulent ventures. Many, many small businesses fail and many, many venture investments go south. That doesn’t make them fraudulent ventures.

I looked at the thread you linked to and didn’t see any convincing evidence there, either. It’s just conjecture and suspicion built on allegations and rumors. I’m also confused about the whole non-orphan story coming from the Haitian “authorities” such as they are and actually exist in a form that we would recognize as a legitimate “authority.” I thought they said these kids weren’t orphans. Now we have U.S. parents saying they’d already adopted them. I think Haiti needs to clarify the status of these kids before they bandy about accusations at Americans upon whom they are almost 100% dependent. In order to do something to this woman and her group, they have to isolate them and demonize them. I see that, in true form, Americans are gullibly going along with the program just ike they go along with most other propaganda they’re fed.

Oh well. It’s really not that important a story in the big scheme of things.


152 posted on 02/09/2010 2:43:44 AM PST by chilltherats (First, kill all the lawyers (now that they ARE the tyrants).......)
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To: chilltherats
If she were Christian, she would have helped the families stay together, instead of separating them to make money on the kids in international adoptions.

Nothing Christ-like about her behavior at all.

153 posted on 02/09/2010 11:08:01 AM PST by MarMema (chains we can believe in)
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To: MarMema

Oh, good grief! You’re just like most other Christians who think they know it all about what’s right and what’s wrong in every situation and what the rest of the people should be doing to meet God’s laws and wishes. You purport to know what another Christian should have decided or would have decided was the right thing to do with regard to these kids based on you being a Christian?

You somehow can read minds because you’re a Christian? You sound more like a psychic than you do a Christian.


154 posted on 02/09/2010 1:30:05 PM PST by chilltherats (First, kill all the lawyers (now that they ARE the tyrants).......)
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To: chilltherats
I am a huge advocate of adoption, be it international, cross-racial or cross-cultural; the bottom line should be the best interests of the child. But giving up a son or daughter is one of the most wrenching decisions a parent can face, and it has to be done right, with ample time to think about it. No parent or guardian should ever have to surrender a child under duress. I can't imagine more duress than trying to provide for a family in the days after a disaster of the magnitude of the Haiti earthquake. It was a moment of overwhelming need and despair -- precisely the wrong moment to expect a parent or guardian to make a permanent, life-changing decision.

Silsby was nothing less than a predator.

155 posted on 02/09/2010 1:43:13 PM PST by MarMema (chains we can believe in)
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To: MarMema

“Silsby was nothing less than a predator”

You’re funny. You really do need to check yourself, though. Get a grip on reality. You don’t know what the truth is. Neither do I. The difference is that I know I don’t know. Your thinking process is exactly what condemned those poor victims of the Salem Witch Trials.

Personally, I’ll take the word of a fellow American over a corrupt voodoo potentate until the facts - FACTS - on the ground prove otherwise.


156 posted on 02/09/2010 2:03:24 PM PST by chilltherats (First, kill all the lawyers (now that they ARE the tyrants).......)
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To: chilltherats

I know that I don’t need to sneak a child across the border when in a third world country in order to help the child.


157 posted on 02/09/2010 8:00:21 PM PST by MarMema (chains we can believe in)
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