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Sick Days for Bad Moods? Bipolar and the Americans with Disabilities Act
Articlesbase ^ | January 27, 2010 | Richard Jarzynka

Posted on 01/30/2010 11:41:53 AM PST by j_marie

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To: musicman
Just wait untill Obamacare gets that "database" going showing you have been on "mental medication".

It's no accident that a rise in socialism results in more and more talk of "mental illness".

"Mental institutions" in Bolshevik countries are a dime a dozen.

21 posted on 01/30/2010 12:45:03 PM PST by Siena Dreaming
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To: divine_moment_of_facts

Bipolar is a mental disorder. The issue under the ADA is that one be accommodated within reason; reason is if properly medicated and under control.
IMO, if they are not under control such that their bad days are “dangerous” or unable to work, they are too disabled to work.


22 posted on 01/30/2010 12:53:47 PM PST by tbw2 (Freeper sci-fi - "Humanity's Edge" - on amazon.com)
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To: cripplecreek

I’ve been around a lot of unstable people my whole sorry life and there’s nothing more frightening than someone who takes their own personal demons out on you.

“OTOH the drama queens who think the whole world needs to stop and fawn over them for the tragedy of the moment are pretty bad”

I’ve had bad experiences with them too.


23 posted on 01/30/2010 12:54:09 PM PST by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: j.argese

Amen.


24 posted on 01/30/2010 1:03:24 PM PST by Politicalmom (Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the government. -- James Madison)
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To: j.argese

TO MY KNOWLEDGE, BIPOLAR DISORDER DOES NOTINDICATE INTELLIGENT LEVELS. ONE CAN BE AN ABSOLUTE GENIUS AND HAVE BIPOLAR DISORDER. IT CAN BE MANAGED BY FAITHFULLY TAKING THE PROPER MEDICATION. THE TRICK IS IN FINDING THE PROPER MEDICATION. I HAVE AN ADULT DAUGHTER WHO IS BIPOLAR.


25 posted on 01/30/2010 1:04:12 PM PST by Paperdoll ( PLEASE FORGIVE THE CAPS. I HAVE M.D.)
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To: Julia H.

I AM NO DOCTOR, BUT YOU MAY TAKE YOUR BASAL TREMPERATURE (PUT THE THERMOMETER UNDER YOUR ARM PIT FOR 2 OR 3 MINUTES) EACH MORNING BEFORE RISING. IF IT IS MORE THAN ONE DEGREE LOWER THAN 98.6, YOU MAY BE SUFFERING FROM HYPOTHYROIDISM. YOUR SYMPTOMS ARE INDICATERS THAT TAKING THYROID MAY BUCK YOU UP A GREAT DEAL. MOST DOCTORS DON’T SEEM TO GIVE MUCH CREDENCE TO THE THYROID PROBLEM. YOU HAVE TO TELL THEM. HYPOTHYROIDISM CANNOT BE DETECTED BY A BLOOD TEST. I HOPE THIS HELPS YOU.


26 posted on 01/30/2010 1:09:56 PM PST by Paperdoll ( PLEASE FORGIVE THE CAPS. I HAVE M.D.)
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To: divine_moment_of_facts

Isn’t it awful!!! Every malingering malcontent will get in line.


27 posted on 01/30/2010 1:22:43 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: aft_lizard

I agree that bipolar is being overdiagnosed these days, as was schizophrenia i the past. That’s just the way human beings, science, and medicine work. However, I have seen classic bipolar people who were of enormous ability, and if they had not been treated, we would have been deprived of their gifts. Bipolar illness is for real.


28 posted on 01/30/2010 1:22:55 PM PST by hellbender
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To: Paperdoll

Ma’am, I don’t believe I made any remarks regarding BiPolar and a person’s intelligence. I was quite sympathetic to those who live with this illness.


29 posted on 01/30/2010 2:03:24 PM PST by j.argese
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

Bravo, from a shrink.

Managed skillfully, it is true that many with Biploar Disorder can have very full, rich and meaningful lives, both in terms of careers and stable relationships.

It is also true that there are a number of forms and manifestations of the disorder in addition to the classic illness, and that at the periphery of this constellation of disorders there is a great deal of over-diagnosis.

In addition, it is true that many people with minor mood problems of one sort or another use it too often as an excuse to skip work. Such folks get little sympathy or support from me if they are my patients. I believe, especially for people with mild to moderate levels of depression, that getting up and going to work and taking care of other responsibilities - whether they “feel like it” or not - is highly therapeutic.

I applaud you, sir.


30 posted on 01/30/2010 2:36:45 PM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: j_marie

I’ve called in sick for a bad mood, called in sick for having too much home stuff that needed doing too. Most of my bosses have explicitly said that they don’t want people coming in when they won’t be able to do the work, for whatever reason. Crappy moods are at least as contagious as colds, one person being a grump can screw up productivity for the whole department. Just don’t abuse the privilege.


31 posted on 01/30/2010 2:40:53 PM PST by discostu (wanted: brick, must be thick and well kept)
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To: TheStickman

ping


32 posted on 01/30/2010 2:47:08 PM PST by visualops (Freepin' on my Pre!)
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To: dagogo redux
Thx Doc!

And about the following, I couldn't agree more. I am semi retired and look after my 90 y/o parents (talk about responsibility) and find work and responsibility EXTREMELY therapeutic. In fact, even the smallest tasks leave me with an great high (not a manic high, but a nice sense of accomplishment).

I believe, especially for people with mild to moderate levels of depression, that getting up and going to work and taking care of other responsibilities - whether they “feel like it” or not - is highly therapeutic.

33 posted on 01/30/2010 2:54:37 PM PST by SonOfDarkSkies (Barky...because he's barking mad!!!)
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To: dagogo redux
BTW, Doc...one other element that I have used since my teens to manage my disorder is lots of fresh air and exercise (every day).

It's a surefire antidote to depression and it doesn't cost a dime.

34 posted on 01/30/2010 2:57:57 PM PST by SonOfDarkSkies (Barky...because he's barking mad!!!)
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To: Siena Dreaming

As someone who was diagnosed with depression & has been taking meds for many years, I can tell you from personal experience it’s got nothing to do with “character development” but chemicals in the brain.

Due to a family situation a few years back, despite being on meds I experienced a horrible depressive episode. I didn’t sleep for weeks and it didn’t have a thing to do with my “character”. I wasn’t treated by a psychologist or a psychiatrist but by our family doctor who was amazing. Man used to call and check on me to see how I was doing till we finally found the right med combination to give me a chance to “come back to life”.

I’m now back on basically the same med regime as before the depressive episode. Life is God, thanks be to God. I pray you will take the time to actually learn what depression really is so you can recognize the signs and hopefully steer someone who needs it to their doctor for treatment.


35 posted on 01/30/2010 3:09:42 PM PST by TheStickman
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To: TheStickman

Should have been Life is GOOD. Sorry for not catching that :)


36 posted on 01/30/2010 3:11:34 PM PST by TheStickman
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To: j.argese

SIR, I WAS MAKING NO ASPERDIONS AS TO WHAT YOU WROTE. I WAS BRIEFLY DESCRIBING WHAT I KNEW ABOUT THE DISORDER.


37 posted on 01/30/2010 3:12:32 PM PST by Paperdoll ( PLEASE FORGIVE THE CAPS. I HAVE M.D.)
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To: Paperdoll

ASPERSIONS. SORRY.


38 posted on 01/30/2010 3:14:46 PM PST by Paperdoll ( PLEASE FORGIVE THE CAPS. I HAVE M.D.)
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To: TheStickman
Due to a family situation a few years back, despite being on meds I experienced a horrible depressive episode.

Because of this statement I am further confirmed in my belief that depression is not always directed by chemicals in the brain, but sometimes by circumstances/negative situations.

How a person thinks about and approaches situations can often determine the level to which a black depression might descend.

A person navigating truamatic situations because with a sense of hope for the future will not experience a depression as severely as one who has no reason to hope.

It is not all chemical. Some of it may be, but there are other emotional, spiritual factors involved. An improvement in these other factors (development of emotions based on healthy, accurate spiritual beliefs) can help ease depression IMO without feeling it is always inevitable to turn to medication.

God bless you.

39 posted on 01/30/2010 3:24:52 PM PST by Siena Dreaming
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To: TheStickman
Please leave out the word "because" while reading the 3rd para of my response.

Doesn't make sense.

40 posted on 01/30/2010 3:27:18 PM PST by Siena Dreaming
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