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To: OldDeckHand

The child didn’t enter into any agreements and the courts have no right to give that child away to a non-relative.

Children are not property to be handed out to former sex-partners as if they’re no more than furniture.

In case you missed it in history class your very country was founded by people who stood up against unjust laws. -Although unjust in a way that was entirely trivial compared to what is happening today. Would you say those men should have been hanged for their treason? Is that your definition of conservatism?

Morality trumps law and we are all responsible for the moral and immoral choices we make. Pointing to laws as a replacement for morals is just plain pathetic.


77 posted on 01/29/2010 4:47:36 PM PST by LastNorwegian
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To: LastNorwegian
"The child didn’t enter into any agreements and the courts have no right to give that child away to a non-relative."

Yes, the court did have the "legal right" - a right given to the court when she signed her civil partnership agreements and filed that agreement (license) with the State of Vermont. I quoted the relevant VT statute in post #35. Read it. Educate yourself. You're entitled to your own opinion, but you're not entitled to your own facts.

If this woman didn't want to introduce a lesbian into her daughter's life, she shouldn't have moved in with a lesbian. I don't know how much clearer that can be.

"Children are not property to be handed out to former sex-partners as if they’re no more than furniture."

Children are minors. When a couple who have joined into a marital or civil agreement - like these two women did - separate, then it's the court's responsibility to make a determination with respect to custody and visitation. Miller violated the court's orders on several occasions. As such, the court stripped her of her custodial privileges. It happens EVERY DAY in court rooms all across the country.

"Is that your definition of conservatism?"

Your argument it specious. My definition of legal conservatism is that jurists follow the law, and NOT decide cases based on religion or personal political philosophy. That's what you wish that this judge do. Judicial activism is bad, always.

"Pointing to laws as a replacement for morals is just plain pathetic." In this country, contracts matter. When you advocate that the courts and especially jurists start vacating or amending contracts on the basis of their morality - or your morality - you might as well join the Taliban.

79 posted on 01/29/2010 5:50:17 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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