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Ping!

"Quo Warranto is being filed today in DC"

2 posted on 01/25/2010 5:58:00 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid

Obummer is already saying he may not run for a 2nd term...in so many words.


8 posted on 01/25/2010 6:09:09 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: rxsid
Ping!

"Quo Warranto is being filed today in DC"

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1. According to Obama's short form birth certificate that we saw on Obama's own website, Obama was born on Aug. 4 and it was filed on Aug. 8.

2. For comparison purposes, let's look at the Nordyke twins long form Hawaii birth certificates: They were born on Aug. 5---one day after Obama and supposedly in the same Kapiolani hospital---and their birth certificates were filed on Aug. 11,three days AFTER Obama's birth certificate that was filed on Aug. 8.

3. If Obama's birth certificate was filed on Aug. 8, then why does it have a HIGHER number---10641---than the Nordyke twins certificates---10637 and 10638---when the Nordyke twins' certificates have Aug. 11 as the date it was filed?

4. Something doesn't seem right.

5. My point is this: It seems reasonable to me that a file number would be given to a Hawaii birth certificate at the time it was filed with the Hawaii birth records department.

6. Let's use our imagination for a few minutes:

a. Obama's Aug. 4, 1961 Hawaii Kapiolani hospital birth certificate comes into the Hawaii department of birth records. <>

b. Let's look at Obama's birth certificate number that we see on Obama's short form birth certificate that is all over the internet: Did it come from Obama's long form Hawaii birth certificate? Was that long form number put there by the hospital or by the Hawaii government AFTER it received Obama's long form birth certificate from Kapiolani hospital?

c. I don't know, but that would be a non-confidential question that we should pressure Hawaii officials like Dr. Fukino to explain to us.

d. For instance, we could ask the Nordyke twins to pressure Dr. Fukino to explain when someone put the numbers 61-10637 and 61-10638 on the top of their Hawaii birth certificates we see on the internet: Were they placed there by Kapiolani hospital or by the Hawaii government AFTER it received the Nordykes' birth certificates from Kapiolani hospital.

e. Let's go back to using our imagination a little bit: The Hawaii government clerk receives Obama's Kapiolani hospital birth certificate.

f. It seems logical to me that the clerk would give Obama's birth certificate a file number on the date it was filed: According to Obama's short form birth certificate we see all over the internet, Obama's birth certificate number was filed on Aug. 8, and the number is 1961-10641.

g. Seems like a pretty routine bureaucratic process to me.

h. But, to me, there is a problem with the routine scenario above: It is the filing of the Nordyke twins' birth certificates. The Nordyke twins supposedly were born in the same Kapiolani hospital as Obama but one day later on Aug. 5.

i. My point is this: If the Obama certificate was filed EARLIER than the Nordyke twins' certificate, then it seems reasonable to me to expect that the Obama certificate would receive a LOWER number than the Nordyke twins, because Obama was born one day earlier in the same hospital as the Nordyke twins.

j. This confusion is why we need Hawaii officials like Dr. Fukino to explain why Obama received a HIGHER number than the Nordyke twins, when supposedly Obama was born a day Earlier than the Nordyke twins.

k. Who has "standing"? Obviously, the Nordyke twins have standing to ask questions about their own 1961, birth certificates. That is, Hawaii officials like Dr. Fukino cannot tell the Nordyke twins that she can't talk about their own 1961 Hawaii birth certificates because of confidential rules or because the Nordyke twins have no standing when it comes to asking questions about their own birth certificates.

NOTE: As I see it, the Nordyke twins could request in writing or ask in person about details in their own birth certificates, and I don't see how Hawaii officials like Dr. Fukino could refuse to answer the questions in the twins letter or if the twins asked for information in person, or if the twins' lawyer asked the Hawaii officials to answer questions about the Nordyke 1961 long form Hawaii birth certificates.

l. So, I wish that the Nordyke twins could be persuaded to ask Hawaii officials the following questions.

Did the hospital or the Hawaii government put the numbers 61-10637 and 61-10638 on the top of the certificates?

m. If the Nordyke twins could help us, it would go a long way in helping us to prove or disapprove that Obama was born in Kapiolani hospital like Obama's supporters claim.

7. Obama supporters expect me to believe that this is what happened to Obama's Aug.4, 1961 birth certificate when it arrived at the Hawaii department of birth records:

a. Aug. 8 file date: Obama's Aug. 4 birth certificate record is filed by a clerk at the Hawaii birth records on Aug. 8, if we are to believe what we see on Obama's short form birth certificate that we see all over the internet.

b. The Obama supporters expect us to believe that the clerk, either on purpose or by mistake, does not stamp file number 61-10641 on Obama's long form birth certificate UNTIL a few days after he puts a file date on it.

c. The problem with the Obama supporters' theory above is this: The Nordyke twins were born in the same Kapiolani hospital where Obama was supposedly born but a day later on Aug. 5.

d. So the following scenario is difficult for me to believe:

A Hawaii government clerk files the Nordyke birth certificates on Aug. 11 but somehow gives them lower numbers than Obama---61-10637 and 61-10638 vs. 10641.

However, for some unknown reason, the clerk turns around a few days later and gives Obama the number 1961-10641, which is 3 numbers HIGHER than the Nordykes'number.

It makes no sense to me that the Hawaii government would file a birh certificate on Aug. 8 but wait to put number 1961-10641 on it until AFTER birth certificates that were filed on Aug.11--the Nordyke twins Aug. 5 birth certificates---were given the numbers 61-10637 and 61-10638.

To help us clear up this Obama/Nordyke confusion, we need the Nordyke twins to ask Hawaii officials like Dr. Fukino to explain in detail what each item and what each number means in their birth certificates.

I hope that the Nordyke twins, who obviously have "standing" to ask the Hawaii government about details on there own birth certificates, can help us solve the question as to why Obama's birth certificate shows a higher number than their birth certificates.

34 posted on 01/25/2010 9:43:56 PM PST by john mirse
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To: rxsid

Please add me to the BC ping list, if there is one.


49 posted on 01/26/2010 6:14:26 AM PST by esquirette (If we do not know our own worldview, we will accept theirs.)
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