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Illegal Haitian Immigrants Can Start Applying to Stay in U.S. (People already here illegally)
Fox News ^ | 1/19/10 | AP

Posted on 01/19/2010 7:51:48 PM PST by GreaterSwiss

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To: nmh

“There is no reason to bring them here. They will never leave and live on the dole. Future Obama people.”

Of course. Welfare Democrats. I expect more than 150,000 before peoples anger stops the migration.


41 posted on 01/20/2010 6:22:08 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: sageb1; All

TO ALL ON THIS THREAD

I was rather OK with this until I understood this important aspect:

THE PEOPLE TO BE DOCUMENTED ARE ****ALREADY***** HERE.

Seems many aren’t even reading the excerpt; I haven’t read anything but that, but I do see that it’s NOT bringing IN people.


42 posted on 01/20/2010 6:23:15 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: kcvl

Just another way to manufacture votes in Florida.


43 posted on 01/20/2010 6:29:16 AM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: GreaterSwiss

NEVER LET A CRISIS GO TO WASTE

while everyone was looking at MA he was and is trying to get thousands of them here plus make those who are here illegally be made legal


44 posted on 01/20/2010 6:51:22 AM PST by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: GreaterSwiss

that Julie is a liar and a welfare taker always looking for excuses and she is one of the reasons why she needs to go back


45 posted on 01/20/2010 6:52:25 AM PST by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: GreaterSwiss

The tower of babel...


46 posted on 01/20/2010 6:54:19 AM PST by Altura Ct.
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To: stephenjohnbanker
Do you know that even JEFFERSON, yes, THOMAS JEFFERSON recognizes and openly complained about NOT letting everyone that wanted to be here, BE HERE through legal immigration. ILLEGAL immigration was a given that it should NOT ever happen. Jefferson recognized that NOT all CULTURES are EQUAL. There are some CULTURES that will destroy and drag our country DOWN. Now we are opening the door to VOODOO - Haitians. We can't STOP them from practicing VOODO because of Freedom of Religion but we could SCFEEN IT OUT.

Look at Haiti. Countries have poured in BILLIONS of dollars over the YEARS. Has it gotten better there? NO! 80% are still BELOW the poverty level and it gets worse every year. WHERE is the money going? Have the people changed for the BETTER? Does shoving money at people make them a BETTER PERSON?

When FREE aid wasn't arriving soon enough - VIOLENCE was the result. When the U.S. military moved in to Haiti, the complaint was we are “occupying the country”. You can't win. We were just trying to bring order and distribute FREE AID! Is this the kind of culture that will bring a STRONG WORK ETHIC? Or do we need more entitlement people who will make us look more “DIVERSE”?

Frankly I don't care what a PERSON LOOKS LIKE. I care about what is in their HEART. What is in their HEART comes out through their BEHAVIOR - voodoo, violence, free loaders who refuse to help themselves. These are NOT the kind of immigrants we want from ANY country! We don't need more dead beats regardless of WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE. This used to be COMMON SENSE. Now when you are critical you are labeled a RACIST, A HATE SPEECH MONGER etc.. Well, my feelings aren't hurt when I speak OBVIOUS COMMON SENSE and FACTS and KNOW U.S. HISTORY.

47 posted on 01/20/2010 7:00:03 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

if you do not know about how obama is trying to bring in Haitians to my state then I suggest you look around.

45,000 of them are being brought in form there if obama gets his way

If you haven’t been up on things yet and want links then go back and do a search on treasure coast local papers, orlando, Tampa, Miami

add them to the up to 200,000 who will be granted amnesty then you have up to nearly a quarter of a million of tem becoming voters, ACORN, welfare handouts, SEIU,

and I would ;like t know how the hell would we house, feed, clothe, medical aid to them when we don’t even have money to hire one cop


48 posted on 01/20/2010 7:00:48 AM PST by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: nmh

why are we not letting immigrants with trades and education in anymore.
Why is third world countries who folks will end up on welfare roles and and up being enslaved by the Dem party by being given peanuts every now and again

Why not let them stay there and tell them to go and build their country .
building it will provide pride, sitting on ones arse, with a handouts like the Dems want them ton do is not going to bring them pride but instead anger and bitterness due to them thinking they should be given more peanuts

yet again while one hand is doing something and everyone see it the other hand if doing stuff we are not seeing it and sadly even on here there are a couple of posters who are being sucked in to the media


49 posted on 01/20/2010 7:05:18 AM PST by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: GreaterSwiss

“Julie Bermane, 19, of Miami, said she has lived in the U.S. since she was 3 but because she was here illegally has been unable to go to college or get a job. “

So, WHO has been SUPPORTING YOU since you are three years old? No job. Kids get out of highschool aroun 17 or 18 years old.

What stopped her from applying legally?

What does that say about our LAWS and how they live them?


50 posted on 01/20/2010 7:05:53 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: manc

“Why are we not letting immigrants with trades and education in anymore.”

We have people IN LINE LEGALLY for citizenship and they GO HOME. They get their education on student visas, wait and wait and wait and wait for their number to come up. Those with LESS EDUCATION AND ACCOMPLISHMENT and depending on the country they are coming from get pushed DOWN. We only allow certain numbers of people from more civilized countries get citizenship. Those that are PRODUCTIVE citizens waiting in line and pushed back because BETTER PAYING JOBS are supposed to go to LEGAL, NATURALIZED and BORN citizens.

“Why is third world countries who folks will end up on welfare roles and and up being enslaved by the Dem party by being given peanuts every now and again.”

THe Deomncrats WANT that. THAT increases their empire of DEPENDENCY. Obama sees FUTURE DEOMCRAT voters in those kinds of people. Immigration reform as well as cap and trade are next on his agenda. He’s been meeting with select Democrats to ram that through next. Demoncrats WANT dead beats that are enslaved to government that have NO ambition, education or skills.

“Why not let them stay there and tell them to go and build their country building it will provide pride, sitting on ones arse, with a handouts like the Dems want them ton do is not going to bring them pride but instead anger and bitterness due to them thinking they should be given more peanuts.”

THAT is what they SHOULD DO. They don’t want them to have pride in their own country or make them productive citizens. No! They want to have YOU, a taxpayer SUPPORT them and name call you when you disagree. Bleeding heart LIBERALS are the other group that tries to rationalize this government, dependency enslavement that YOU pay for.

yet again while one hand is doing something and everyone see it the other hand if doing stuff we are not seeing it and sadly even on here there are a couple of posters who are being sucked in to the media


51 posted on 01/20/2010 7:23:53 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: manc
“More than 100 Haitians crammed inside a Catholic church Tuesday to ask questions about a federal government designation that will allow possibly hundreds of thousands of illegal Haitian immigrants to work in the U.S. and send money home during the next 18 months. “

Tell me, what will people who live BELOW the POVERTY LINE in Haiti, without an education and skills DO HERE so they can SEND MONEY HOME over the next 18 months? Already LEGAL citizens are without jobs that have education and skills. BTW, WHERE will they stay? Will that be for FREE too? Of course you know YOU will be paying for where they live. These people don't have any money.

Think about the EXPENSE of bringing them here and for what? More people enslaved to our government, you get the bill and we are more “diverse”. I hope they leave their machetes and VOODOO at home but of course that won't happen as we continue to celebrate perverse “diversity”.

52 posted on 01/20/2010 7:27:41 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: manc

My point was everyone is assuming they’re bringing Haitians here because of disaster relief, when in truth the article reads that they’re “helping” those already here illegally.


53 posted on 01/20/2010 8:06:51 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: nmh

agreed
we are bringing people in who know not that much but violence.
They know about violence because that is all they have grown up with, , . Life is cheap on the island before this and yet ding dong has a great plan of trying to get them here.

Then we have the likes of Julie who does not look what so ever as a hard working professional but more of a welfare layabout with her hand out.

She makes the excuse of she cannot get into school, is she on drugs, there’s loads of illegals at schools.
She can’t get a job, for crying out loud we have been complaining about illegals having jobs for years.

All this is and I know you know is the rat party looking for more welfare layabouts and voters.
Cloward and piven at it’s best right here.

The public is being taken in by the media. To listen to the media one would think that the island was beautiful and civilised before this, it was not.

Now of course if the lefty trolls are reading this then thye will cry racism, bigotry and the usual clap trap of crap they usually shout , why because truth hurts them just as much as when folks see what their real game is.

So for those lefty trolls here this.
I couldn’t give a rat’s arse about what you think or what stupid names you can come out with . I care about what my family thinks of me not some lefty troll hiding behind a keyboard sitting in a dorm room or momma’s basement or house .

NMH
I hope this thread is put up on here for a few days as there are still folks on here who still do not know what is going on or do not see the bigger picture as ot what is going on from the white house


54 posted on 01/20/2010 8:22:48 AM PST by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

the article might did state that but the fact is that the white house and obama are trying to figure a way to bring over 45,000 of them over to my state.

Now my state is a swing state and if this goes blue then we can all forget about ever winning the white house.

This is something which the GOP still doe snot understand until come near election day.

They should be in this state/VA,CO,NM,AZ,NC,PA,OH,IO pushing to get voters every day for 4 years instead of focusing on votes near the election


55 posted on 01/20/2010 8:25:16 AM PST by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: manc
Keep bumping it up!
These lying excuses must be addressed.

I am so weary of BLEEDING HEART LIBERALS and HUMANISTS.

What is worse is people who are “conservative”. I purposely put that in quotes. They want to “help” but they don't know when to STOP. Through their selfless effort they transfer the ENSLAVEMENT from government or some secular organization to THEMSELVES. They too get off on “saving” people from being productive INDIVIDUALS.

To truly HELP someone you guide them to self sufficieny. Give them back their pride and dignity. There is no pride or dignity in accepting a check from a church or the government when those getting the FREE money can DO FOR THEMSELVES. I've seen this many times in the “Christian” or should I say the HUMANISTIC community.

Their needs to be restraint and let people be FREE to be the best and the most they can be. This is often forgotten by the “do gooders”. These “Christian dogooders” have the same problem as LIBERALS at this point.

Also when charities give to a country they must DEMAND accountability. What sense does it make to keep giving to a country like Haiti when it NEVER reaches the people? What sense does it make if the people who are supposed to be RECEIVING the aid, do NOTHING about their own corruption. These folks need to RISE UP and demand a decent government and decent behavior among themselves. This is where GENUINE CHRISTIANTY can make a difference. CHANGE THE HEARTS AND MINDS OF THESE PEOPLE.

Look at Viet Nam. Totally bombed out and a mess. That was just 40 some years ago. Today look at Viet Nam. They're doing quite well thank you.

56 posted on 01/20/2010 11:11:18 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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Obama has already given Amnesty to many Haitians(Orpans etc.) and will bring the rest of the Haitians here to the U.S.A. . Obama will bring practically all of the population of Haiti, the whole country, to the U.S.A..And then Obama will give the Haitians Amnesty. And Americans won’t object to Obama bringing the Haitians to the U.S.A. and giving them Amnesty because the media has people feeling sorry for the Haitians and the media says all of their houses are destroyed (how many were homeless and starving before the quake?).
This is a media attempt to bring in the whole country of Haiti into the U.S.A. I challenge anyone feeling sorry for the Haitians and telling us to help : go ahead bring some Haitians into your home, feed them etc. Put your money where your mouth is.Talk means nothing.

The media wants to bring more voters for socialism to the U.S.A..We just had a great victory in Massachusetts, where Scott Brown won. The media wants to make sure we have no more victories like that. The media wants to bring in as many foreigners as they can into the U.S.A. and then give them Amnesty so that the democrats will have more voters and so can turn the U.S.A into a socialist 3rd world hell hole.

This is the main reason the media keeps showing what is going on in another country which is of no interest to me.

I don’t know if I risk being banned for this but keep in mind that I’m holding back what i really want to say. None of you can handle the truth. I am working on a blog where people can see the truth.

I believe in freedom of speech as that is the only way to get out ideas no one has thought of or which is considered heretical and which could be right like the “world is not flat” etc.,

I see this as the liberal media brainwashing. The media is trying to make the public feel sorry for the Haitians so that we accept the Marxist theory of wealth redistribution and property redistribution (allowing the Haitians into the U.S. our property). What does what happens in another country have to do with us in this country, the U.S.A.?

I am a warrior. I see other countries as competitors or enemies.


57 posted on 01/20/2010 3:52:08 PM PST by rurgan (Sarah Palin:"Big government is the problem, not the solution" Me:socialism doesn't work)
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To: GreaterSwiss
Julie Bermane had nothing to do with the earthquake. But since her homeland had issues she goes from illegal alien of 16 yrs to legal? Will there be a hurricane in Mexico next?

Mexicans had their big quake in '85. I'm sure they can be made eligible for this program too.

58 posted on 01/20/2010 4:01:44 PM PST by san pancho
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To: kcvl
“We are drawing on expertise from the past”

and surely using this as a trial run for how to deal with the millions to be given amnesty in the near future

59 posted on 01/20/2010 4:04:08 PM PST by san pancho
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To: manc; nmh; All

manc, I agree with everything in your post.

I’m amazed so many are brainwashed by the media.

Obama has already given Amnesty to many Haitians(Orphans etc.) and will bring the rest of the Haitians here to the U.S.A. . Obama will bring practically all of the population of Haiti, the whole country, to the U.S.A..And then Obama will give the Haitians Amnesty. And Americans won’t object to Obama bringing the Haitians to the U.S.A. and giving them Amnesty because the media has people feeling sorry for the Haitians and the media says all of their houses are destroyed (how many were homeless and starving before the quake?).
This is a media attempt to bring in the whole country of Haiti into the U.S.A. I challenge anyone feeling sorry for the Haitians and telling us to help : go ahead bring some Haitians into your home, feed them etc. Put your money where your mouth is.Talk means nothing.

The media wants to bring more voters for socialism to the U.S.A..We just had a great victory in Massachusetts, where Scott Brown won. The media wants to make sure we have no more victories like that. The media wants to bring in as many foreigners as they can into the U.S.A. and then give them Amnesty so that the democrats will have more voters and so can turn the U.S.A into a socialist 3rd world hell hole.

This is the main reason the media keeps showing what is going on in another country which is of no interest to me.

I don’t know if I risk being banned for this but keep in mind that I’m holding back what i really want to say. None of you can handle the truth. I am working on a blog where people can see the truth.

I believe in freedom of speech as that is the only way to get out ideas no one has thought of or which is considered heretical and which could be right like the “world is not flat” etc.,

I see this as the liberal media brainwashing. The media is trying to make the public feel sorry for the Haitians so that we accept the Marxist theory of wealth redistribution and property redistribution (allowing the Haitians into the U.S. our property). What does what happens in another country have to do with us in this country, the U.S.A.?

I am a warrior. I see other countries as competitors or enemies.


60 posted on 01/20/2010 4:57:45 PM PST by rurgan (Sarah Palin:"Big government is the problem, not the solution" Me:socialism doesn't work)
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