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To: goldstategop; mkjessup; genetic homophobe; org.whodat; dools007; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; ...
RE :”For anyone who thought that the left had shown itself at its most deranged during 8 years of Bush, are now being treated to the dementia of a left in power, denied absolute power.

Really? They dont have absolute power?? Here's a contrasting prediction typical of those here about a year ago:

Let me explain something to you if Obama wins and they retain a large majority in the Senate and the house and perhaps a veto proof majority, you are going to effectively have a government by Oligarchy. You will have the courts, the bureaucracy, the two elected branches all pushing aggressively in one direction. There will be NO checks and balances.Do not let Democrats control everything (10/8/08 Mark Levin show Flashback)

5 posted on 01/09/2010 8:43:40 PM PST by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is spending you demand stupid")
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Boy was that one of the most prescient statements ever made. Too bad not enough of our fellow Americans paid heed.


6 posted on 01/09/2010 8:45:34 PM PST by Oceander
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It concerns me a great deal to see Obama in the White House, the Democrats the majority in the Senate and the House.

Frankly it would concern me more to have a man like John McCain in the White House, no matter who controlled Congress.

I know a lot of people look at our current situation and think it couldn't be worse. I believe it could be.

If John McCain had been elected President he would have no opposition whatsoever.  Much of his agenda would be a "reach across the isle" effort. In this environment that would have resulted in very little opposition from either party. 

Folks will try to comfort themselves that at least McCain wouldn't have pushed nationalized health care. And no he probably wouldn't have this exact bill, but there's no assurance whatsoever McCain wouldn't have reached across the isle to devise a better nationalized heath care, "a reasoned version".  I've heard a number of Republicans lament the fact that they haven't been able to contribute to devising a better version of the hearth care plan. That would be a plan more like Romneycare.  We're just kidding ourselves if we think McCain wouldn't have signed on to something like this.

Remember the excuses for the medicinal enhancement to Medicare? The Republicans supported that effort saying, "If we didn't do it, the Democrat's version would have been much worse." That's exactly the excuse that would have been used to justify the Republican's health care plan.

On F.R. we've already discused the foot in the door aspects of any heath care bill. Once any legislation is passed, it will be enhanced over time to be exactly what the Democrats always wanted.

So how many Republicans would have voted against a so-called "reasoned bill"?  With McCain pushing it maybe fifty in the house and ten in the Senate.  And that would have been the model on issue after issue with McCain in charge.

McCain has at one time or another supported the LOST Treaty. He has also supported the U.S. signing on to the International Criminal Court. The implication of the Lost Treaty is that the U.N. would gain an income stream.  It could also gain a sign off on U.S. Naval operations.

Once again, this would be another foot in the door aspect issue. Starting out somewhat benign, it would certainly become more devastating over time. Issue after issue after issue we would see our nation sold out in a bipartisan manner.

The same guy that advocated the closing of Gitmo because it gave the U.S. a black eye, might just decide our efforts in Afghanistan were doing the some thing. I submit McCain couldn't even be trusted on defense issues. He praised Obama's cuts of defense programs earlier there year.

Right now things look bleak. We can't block 60 votes in the Senate. And that is indeed terrible. The one saving grace we have though, is a unified opposition. At least the public is hearing an objection to this.  Obama is taking a beating in the polls because of that opposition. And this November, the ranks of Republicans will grow in the Senate and the House. And despite what the RNC's Steele thinks, we may even take back the Senate and House.

Would the public hear any opposition to leftist McCain legislation? Sadly, no.

If John McCain were president, what would we be facing in November? Folks, there would be a very good chance we would lose even more seats in the Senate and the House. Not only would we be passing bad legislation, we would be helping the opposition entrench to the point it might be decades before we could gain power again, Congress and White House.

Under this type of situation Conservatism would be all but non-existent. Right now we're poised to grow our movement considerably. I'm not convinced the Tea Party effort would have been launched or so successful with many of our people supporting McCain if he were president because he would have an (R) after his name.

At the very least, I can safely say a McCain presidency would be very very problematic, and the ramifications not something we'd like to face.

This year is crucial. This is the most important mid-term election in our history.  And once John Mc Cain was nominated in 2008, we were screwed. This was going to be a time of trouble no matter what. We just as well admit it.
18 posted on 01/10/2010 1:47:46 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Good news. HC bill will not cover illegal aliens. Bad news. 20-35 million will be made citizens.)
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