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In 2010 predictions, Pat Robertson says America under God's wrath...
http://www.abpnews.com/content/view/4690/53/ ^ | Jan 8th, 2010 | Bob Allen

Posted on 01/08/2010 9:43:36 AM PST by TaraP

VIRGINIA BEACH, Va. (ABP) -- Religious broadcaster Pat Robertson said God's wrath is looming over a nation headed for economic ruin in his annual predictions for the coming year, aired Jan. 4 on "The 700 Club."

Robertson, 79, has a tradition of ending each year in a prayer retreat and sharing what he believes God tells him during that retreat later at a chapel service for staff of the Christian Broadcasting Network and Regent University.

Sometimes the messages are quite specific. In 2008, for example, he predicted a major stock market crash and rising fuel prices. For 2010, Robertson said, God gave him a more general warning of judgment for America's acceptance of abortion, gay marriage and secularism.

"What he is telling me, and I believe is right, is that there is a cloud over this nation now," Robertson said in a segment of the chapel service broadcast on the program. "There's a cloud of God's wrath over America."

"This country has enjoyed tremendous blessing," he continued. "We have been blessed like no nation on the face of the Earth, and yet we have forsaken the Lord."

"You can't have your courts turn against me," Robertson said the Lord told him. "You can't have legislation that is anti-God. You can't foster in your midst things that I call an abomination. You can't do that. And if you do, sooner or later judgment's going to come."

Robertson said God will not bless a nation where abortion is commonplace, homosexuality is institutionalized and government-sanctioned prayer and Bible reading are banned in public schools.

"Fifty million babies slaughtered," he said, in reference to abortion. "It exceeds the slaughters of antiquity."

"How can we pray for his blessing when we have that going on and when we have courts that have ruled repeatedly against him?" he asked. "We have the Bible taken from the schools. We have prayer taken from the children, and now we have perversion that God calls an abomination -- we have that legitimized and given a constitutional standing by the court."

Robertson said he did receive a clear word about the economy.

"We are engaged in a slow time of financial ruin," he said. "This country will be ultimately bankrupt. It's just a question of how soon. We're beginning that. That's one thing that I can say for certain that is happening. It's a dangerous thing. It's going to hurt America very badly."

He said it is a problem not so much of government policy but human greed.

"Can you imagine if you are getting Social Security that you would say I want my Social Security check to get cut?" he asked. "The problem is so many people right now are depending on the government for their support, and there's nobody who wants to give up anything at all, and if anybody begins to suggest fiscal restraint, the people will rise up against them and vote them out of office. So you've got a situation where you can't arrest this problem -- the big financial problem -- because the people don't want it. Only a movement of God that brings in a spirit of self-sacrifice and a desire for the common good and some wisdom are we going to be spared this thing."

Robertson said he viewed God's message as a word of warning, and that God does not want to hurt people but only is allowing it to bring revival.

"I would love to say the Lord told me it's gong to be peace and prosperity and it's wonderful and that God's going to bless America, he's going to bless you, he's going to bless your business, you're going to make a lot of money in the stock market and everybody's going to be happy," he said. "I can't say that."

Robertson claims a good record in the percentage of his predictions that come true, but there have been notable misses. He predicted that Russia would invade Israel in 1982, projected a worldwide economic collapse in 1985 and said Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-W.V.) would be elected president in 1996.

In 2007 Robertson predicted a terrorist attack, possibly involving a nuclear weapon, but it did not come about. "All I can think is that somehow the people of God prayed, and God in his mercy spared us," Robertson said in January 2008.

Robertson got in hot water in 2001, when he and the late Jerry Falwell blamed 9/11 on liberals, feminists, abortion providers and gays whom they said prompted God to remove a hedge of divine protection from around the United States


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1 posted on 01/08/2010 9:43:36 AM PST by TaraP
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To: TaraP

El Correcto!


2 posted on 01/08/2010 9:45:10 AM PST by screaminsunshine (!!three if by government)
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To: screaminsunshine

I think his prediction is pretty obvious to all that know the LORD and study his word.....


3 posted on 01/08/2010 9:48:08 AM PST by TaraP (*GOD* made love so strong, so it would carry you all the way home.....)
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To: TaraP
Robertson said God will not bless a nation where abortion is commonplace, homosexuality is institutionalized and government-sanctioned prayer and Bible reading are banned in public schools.

Robertson is a little wacky at times, but he is right in what he is saying here. God cannot tolerate the horrible, horrible sins of our nation forever.

4 posted on 01/08/2010 9:49:48 AM PST by rawhide
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To: TaraP

I concur with him 100%


5 posted on 01/08/2010 9:50:11 AM PST by DarthVader (Liberalism is the politics of EVIL whose time of judgment has come.)
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To: TaraP
I think Roberts is confusing cause and effect. America's system requires a moral and religous people, one that is culturally cohesive. Decades of chipping away at the religous traditions and beliefs of the people of this country has led to a large number of people who do not have a moral foundation, and that in turn has led to a great extent to the problems we face today. It's not God's wrath for failure to be Godly; it is simply the natural result.

Now, if we are hit with meteors, floods, tsunamis, earthquakes and cats and dogs raining down on us, then that could well be attributed to wrath.

When you do stupid things, and get bad results, it's not God's fault.

6 posted on 01/08/2010 9:58:03 AM PST by Defiant (The absence of bias appears to be bias to those who are biased.)
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To: TaraP
and government-sanctioned prayer and Bible reading are banned in public schools.
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God should punish us for having government schools at all!

How is it possible to have a vigorous Christian education in a government school?

In the mid-1800s when the first government schools were opened the Christian teachings offered there was already a lukewarm and watered down pablum. It had to be to satisfy the demands of the many Christian sects in the country. By the 1960s Christian education was reduced to the Lord's Prayer and a verse of the Bible during homeroom time.

Well...We know how the Lord feels about being lukewarm.

We need to get our children into schools that can teach their faith in a vigorous manner. It is our best defense against the three worldwide threats against our nation: atheistic secularism, Marxist-fascism, and Islam.

Finally...Simply by attending government schools children become acclimatized to socialism. If the government can take money from their neighbor to pay for schooling, why not other things? Within one to three generations of government schooling the citizens of my parents, grandparents, and great grandparents generation we had:

**The IRS
** The feminist movement
** The federal reserve
** The failed League of Nations and later the U.N.
** FDRs Great Society
** Johnson's New Deal
** The abandonment of the gold standard
** A thousand socialist programs and agencies
** And now Obama

Putting prayer back into the government schools is a band aid. We need to SHUT DOWN every government K-12 school in this nation.

7 posted on 01/08/2010 9:59:57 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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To: Defiant

God’s Law of Natural Consequences.


8 posted on 01/08/2010 10:01:11 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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To: TaraP
In 2010 predictions, Pat Robertson says America under God's wrath...

Well, if God doesn't judge the U.S.A. and come under His wrath -- for over 50 million babies killed by their parents -- then something is wrong with God...

[ just sayin' ...]


Of course, we're already under the judgement of God, since we have Obama as President. It's obvious that God put Obama in place for that purpose.

9 posted on 01/08/2010 10:06:52 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: TaraP
excerpt ...
“...”What he is telling me, and I believe is right, is that there is a cloud over this nation now,” Robertson said in a segment of the chapel service broadcast on the program. “There's a cloud of God's wrath over America.”

“This country has enjoyed tremendous blessing,” he continued. “We have been blessed like no nation on the face of the Earth, and yet we have forsaken the Lord.”
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>>> and yet we have forsaken the Lord.”

Look around ... it is everywhere. Are we turning to God with transformed minds, contrite hearts, being truly sorry for our ignorant rebellious coming and going? All the while without trusting, and living to please our God? As if we have done nothing wrong?

God help us in our day, in Jesus name. Have mercy on Your people. You know what is in man. Forgive us, as we turn to You, we know we are to be chastised as Your children... amen.

10 posted on 01/08/2010 10:08:11 AM PST by geologist (The only answer to the troubles of this life is Jesus. A decision we all must make.)
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To: wintertime
** FDRs Great Society

** Johnson's New Deal


You mean...

** FDRs New Deal

** Johnson's Great Society
11 posted on 01/08/2010 10:08:45 AM PST by railroader
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To: TaraP

Ditto - Robertson’s comments. Personally, I don’t think we’ve seen anything yet compared to what may be coming down the pipeline.


12 posted on 01/08/2010 10:09:55 AM PST by OB1kNOb (Q: What's the difference between Obama and his dog, Bo? A: Bo has papers.)
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To: TaraP

Much of Pat’s observations and statements are based on deducing what’s going on in the world in the short term. Much of what he says can be said to occur to vary degrees.

And you don’t need to hear a special message from God to have a pretty good idea of potential things that can happen. You can study the markets and weather and news abroad and make similar statements and be similarly accurate.

The fact his prophetic warnings and who’s going to be president failed, well, you know what they say about testing the prophets. If what they say comes true, the prophecy is genuinely from God. Not “well, enough people prayed and stopped God from allowing it to occur’.

That said about Pat, I do appreciate the way CBN generally covers the news of the day. It brings balance to the liberal MSM coverage (or omission) of news going on.


13 posted on 01/08/2010 10:10:51 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

People praying and repenting is the only thing that can stop God from chastising or judging. Jeremiah 18 and Jonah explain this well:

http://bible.oremus.org/?passage=Jeremiah+18


14 posted on 01/08/2010 10:15:46 AM PST by DarthVader (Liberalism is the politics of EVIL whose time of judgment has come.)
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To: OB1kNOb

“Personally, I don’t think we’ve seen anything yet compared to what may be coming down the pipeline.”

I concur.


15 posted on 01/08/2010 10:17:47 AM PST by DarthVader (Liberalism is the politics of EVIL whose time of judgment has come.)
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To: geologist

As our country continues to turn it’s back on the Lord, he will continue to remove his hand off of us. Romans 1:18-32 always comes to mind when I think of the present time.


16 posted on 01/08/2010 10:20:19 AM PST by mothball
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To: railroader

Exactly! First time I have made that mistake. ( Oh! Those typos!)


17 posted on 01/08/2010 10:20:54 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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To: TaraP

I’m not sure Robertson is a prophet, but it doesn’t take a prophet to see that this Country has turned away from GOD.


18 posted on 01/08/2010 10:23:39 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Pork Eating CRUSADER - FUBO! Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: Defiant
It's not God's wrath for failure to be Godly; it is simply the natural result.

That's how God normally operates, though. He's not going to use miraculous means to punish the faithless, because miracles exist to strengthen the faith of the faithful.

Instead, he simply exposes the faithless to perfectly natural punishments.

The OT is full of prophetic condemnations of Israel for, among other things, offering their own children in sacrifice to a pagan god. (Sound familiar?) When the promised "wrath of God" came, it didn't take the form of miraculous punishments raining down from heaven. It took the form of Assyrian and Babylonian armies, conquering the nation and carting the people off to slavery in a foreign land.

19 posted on 01/08/2010 10:23:50 AM PST by Campion ("President Barack Obama" is an anagram for "An Arab-backed imposter")
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To: DarthVader

Yes but the people are specifically told this will occur unless they repent. Pat’s given these prophetic predictions and never part of them has he said “God will spare us this specifically if we repent.” And explain why Rockefeller didn’t get the presidency.

C’mon I think you know exactly what’s gone on here. Russia invading Israel in 1982? What did we all as American Christians do in 1981 at Pat’s urging to stop God from allowing this to occur? As a Christian I take it seriously when someone makes big claims that they themselves sounda large trumpet about, that do not come to pass. More so when they do it several times and they do not materialize.

And I also try to be consistent and apply the same standard of judgment I’d use on other religious figures that do the same thing. The Jehovah’s Witnesses and their failed prophecies of the end of the world, for example.


20 posted on 01/08/2010 10:25:37 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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