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To: patriot preacher

Who is to say what laws are foolish? You? The laws are what they are whether or not you like them. We can elect legislators who pass righteous laws or not. When fools vote to elect foolish politicians, we get foolish laws. The only backstop we have on the law is the Constitution. Beyond that, you don’t get to decide which laws you want to follow and which you don’t. That is the hardship of living in a democracy. The idiotic majority often enslave or burden a wiser minority who is now bound by their idiocy.

I hate it myself. Everything Obama is doing is foolish. The only power we have is to unelect these idiots and elect righteous men. We don’t get to cherry pic, which laws we want to follow.


43 posted on 01/01/2010 6:19:18 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Depression Countdown: 48... 47... 46...)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
Beyond that, you don’t get to decide which laws you want to follow and which you don’t.

Wrong. Civil Disobedience is sometimes a DUTY. Whether you like it or not, or whether you personally choose to engage in it or not, Civil Disobedience of human laws which violate the law of God is an outright Command.

We ought to obey God rather than men.

I guess if Tomorrow a legislature passes a law that requires you to turn in all of your firearms, you are going to do so? Right? Or will you rethink your stance on Civil Disobedience?

48 posted on 01/01/2010 6:52:25 PM PST by freedomwarrior998
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

Who is to say what laws are foolish? You? The laws are what they are whether or not you like them.... We don’t get to cherry pic, which laws we want to follow.
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Okay, YOU obey laws that are contrary to Scripture. It is my conviction that if a law is unjust, it is morally permissible to disobey that law. It may not be imperative, but it is permissible. And yes, there are consequences — the law may then punish someone for their disobedience. That goes with the territory.

Examples? Peter and John did this very thing in Acts. And MANY Christian Missionaries do it every day by preaching the Gospel in foreign lands that are “closed” to religious freedoms and liberties. And if you want some history, how about the “underground railroad” that helped fugitive slaves escape from their captivity? Slavery was the “law of the land,” and even free states were enjoined to respect that law — but many didn’t. Was that wrong? Or how about the many Germans (like Schindler and Corrie Ten Boom) who harbored and aided Jews to escape the Nazi’s? The “Final Solution” was “the law of the land” too — were they wrong?

I’m not suggesting that defying an unjust law is something EVERY believer is OBLIGATED to do. I AM saying that if a Christian in good conscience and by conviction cannot follow such an unjust law, then they MAY ignore, defy or resist it. I think the Bible and History will back me on this point...

So, here’s the important question — hypothetically, if I were to have aided this woman to take her daughter and escape this country to keep her from jail and the little girl from a deviant, dysfunctional pseudofamily, would you turn me in?

I’d like to know — one day I may need to know what “brother” or “sister” I can trust.


49 posted on 01/01/2010 6:58:57 PM PST by patriot preacher (To be a good American Citizen and a Christian IS NOT a contradiction. (www.mygration.blogspot.com))
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