Posted on 12/31/2009 1:35:17 AM PST by Viiksitimali
Shots have been fired at a shopping centre in the town of Espoo, near the capital of Finland, Helsinki.
An eyewitness said at least one person was left lying on the floor after shooting broke out, the national broadcaster YLE said on its website.
(Excerpt) Read more at news.bbc.co.uk ...
Police: At Least 4 Shot at Espoo Mall
http://yle.fi/uutiset/news/2009/12/police_at_least_4_shot_at_espoo_mall_1331619.html
Jon di Paolo, Sky News Online
“Four people have reportedly been shot after a gunman went on the rampage in a shopping centre in Finland.”
SNIPPET: “News agencies say many ambulances have been called to the mall in the town of Espoo near the capital, Helsinki.
YLE, the Finnish English-language news service, is reporting that one or more people were shot at the centre’s Prisma grocery shop.
One employee was apparently seen lying on the floor in the upper level of the business.
A man dressed in black was seen walking toward Citymarket, another grocery store.”
http://static.iltalehti.fi/espoo/vaakasello3112HL_eo.jpg
http://www.twazzup.com/?q=espoo+finland&l=all
It must dangerous in Europe...I’m glad I don’t live there.
Ok, that’s your twitter like thing...
Pulling this off:
Quote:
http://www.twazzup.com/?q=espoo+finland&l=all
Looking at this poster:
http://www.twazzup.com/breakingreport
Quote from twazzup.com/breakingreport:
breakingreport
_INTERRUPT_: Shooter wearing black still at large in shopping center Espoo(Finland). At least four people injured, one with bullet in head.
3 min ago from web
http://www.yle.fi/uutiset/news/2009/12/police_at_least_4_dead_at_espoo_mall_1331619.html
“Police: At Least 4 Dead at Espoo Mall”
published today 10:55 AM, updated today 11:58 AM
SNIPPET: “The gunman apparently remains at large.”
Ok Viksitimali...here’s a live report.
Can you translate and is there a description on the suspect other than he’s wearing black?
http://arenan.yle.fi/player/index.php?stream=401&language=sv
Remember lurkers...breaking news is just that ... breaking... information can change quickly.
Could be a muslim but sounds more like a crazy kid, probably with youtube videos and angry webpages.
http://www.yle.fi/uutiset/news/2009/12/police_at_least_4_dead_at_espoo_mall_1331619.html
NEWS
Index > News > Article
“Police: At Least 4 Dead at Espoo Mall”
published today 10:55 AM, updated today 12:07 PM
SNIPPET: “The Sello shopping mall in central Espoo has been closed following a shooting incident on Thursday morning that has left at least four dead. Police say they have identified the gunman, but he apparently remains at large.
The shots reportedly began around 10.20. Espoo Police say at least four people have been shot dead, three men and one woman.
They say the perpetrator was a man born in 1966, and that he used a 9mm handgun.”
Thank you.
Shooter belong to gypsy minority
ADDING to post no. 7:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8435857.stm
Page last updated at 10:12 GMT, Thursday, 31 December 2009
“’Fatal’ shooting at shopping mall in Espoo, Finland”
SNIPPET: “A witness said an employee of the Prisma grocery store was left lying on the floor of the shop, and that a man dressed in black was seen walking toward the Citymarket store.
A separate, unconfirmed, report said one person had been shot twice in the head and another in the stomach.”
Ok, and according to the translation link it looks like an image was captured of the shooter.
Do you have a lot of gypsy minorities in Finland?
At the moment, at least 10,000 Roma reside in Finland. In addition, approximately 3,500 Finnish Roma live in Sweden.
http://www.errc.org/cikk.php?cikk=2077
Ok, I didn’t know that.
Thanks.
If I lived in “Espoo”, I’d kill somebody!!
;-)
I don’t see anything new in the news.
I’ll check back in later this morning.
Thanks for posting this thread.
The country has 1.6 million firearms in private hands - with a population of 5.3 million.
Politicians, social workers and religious leaders have urged tighter gun laws, more vigilance of Internet sites, and more social bonding in the small Nordic nation, known for its high suicide rates, heavy drinking and domestic violence.”
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1239610/Finland-mall-shooting-Gunman-opens-Sello-shopping-centre-Espoo.html?ITO=1708&referrer=yahoo#ixzz0bGG407QJ
From UK Daily Mail.
Funny how newspapers will never speculate about the role of Islam in the immediate aftermath of an atrocity but are happy enough to wade into the gun lobby.
Whatever happened to personal responsibility?
From the UK (No guns allowed)
NRA Finland
Kansallinen Kivääriyhdistys (National Rifle Association) of Finland founded officially on July 7th, 2006 to watch and protect the rights of the gun owners, who have about 1,700,000 guns. 540,000 people, which is 10 per cent of the total population of Finland, have license to own guns. It means, that Finland is the third in percentage in the whole World, the U.S.A. is the first, Jemen the second. Only 20 per cent of all homicides in Finland are done with guns and about half of it the gun used has been illegally owned (not licensed). Finland became as a member of the E.U. on 1995, then among numerous of others, the gun directive started to concern Finland, too. The legislation in Finland transferred to correspond with the 1991 directive of the E.U. and people still have the opportunity to own guns.
http://www.nra.fi/english/06-column-president.html
I believe that should be no legal weapons allowed.
But that’s just me...
Sello Mall is quite large IIRC. A very busy place with 3 or 4 sections with over 150 shops.
prisoner6
“It must dangerous in Europe...I’m glad I don’t live there.”
Not a problem here in Texas anymore. I was just eating dinner with some Northeasterners last night at a crowded restaurant and explaining that if someone tried anything cute, he’d likely have bullets coming at him from at least 5 directions.
Amateur video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpdsAXVaiWI
I see on the video a commenter posts a name possibly of the shooter.
I can’t find anything like that on a news site.
Can you confirm the name of the shooter?
Yes , not a gypsy.
Albanian name
Thank you Viiksitimali.
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Note: The following news brief snippet is a quote:
Her search for Cello killings
31.12.2009 12:47, last updated 31.12.
12:54
Surmasta four people suspected of Espoo Sello shopping Shkupolli Ibrahim called the man, which is assumed to be armed and dangerous.
He was born in 1966 and lived in Finland for a longer period of time. Shkupollia has not yet been reached.
Observations on the man and the audience asked what happened to number 071 87 38 250
ping
Best of luck there, but since the alleged shooter is protected species, there will be loud calls to go after all the guns instead.
My only advice is don’t give an inch on gun control and instead to get the debate where it’s needed (i.e., just why are Scandinavians inviting in so many of these people, and what exactly did anyone expect to happen).
This is what happens when Socialist countries start to grab guns. “Licensed” means confiscation and gun owners are afraid to carry for fear of losing their gun rights.
Thank you.
Google - Translation:
UPDATE:
“Espoolaisasunnosta fifth victim was found”
Thursday, 31.12.2009 at 13.07
SNIPPET: “From the magazine has learned that the apartment is found espoolaisesta fifth victim.”
A few more details...
http://yle.fi/uutiset/news/2009/12/police_four_dead_at_espoo_mall_1331619.html
“Police: Four Dead at Espoo Mall”
published today 10:55 AM, updated today 01:17 PM
SNIPPET: “The Sello shopping mall in central Espoo has been closed following a shooting incident on Thursday morning that has left four dead. Police say they have identified the gunman. He remains at large.
Police are looking for the suspect, Ibrahim Shkupolli. He is considered armed and dangerous, and has had run-ins with the police in the past. They say the suspect was born in 1966, and that he used a 9mm handgun.”
prisoner6
More details:
Google - Translation:
“Ibrahim Shkupolli suspected shooter has been convicted aserikoksesta”
31.12.2009 13:03 | Updated: 31.12.2009 13:10
HELSINGIN SANOMAT
SNIPPET: “The suspected shooter has been sentenced in 2001 to assault and in 2007, firearms aserikoksesta Helsinki District Court.
For more information, the case gives a press conference at 14.30.”
Shkupolli picture
http://poliisi.fi/poliisi/lansi-uusimaa/home.nsf/PFBD/03E067B852FA50DDC225769D00383BE1/$file/Shkupolli.jpg?OpenElement
Ok, thank you.
“This is what happens when Socialist countries start to grab guns. “Licensed” means confiscation and gun owners are afraid to carry for fear of losing their gun rights.”
Actually, over there, I think “licensed” simply means that you can have a gun in your house (which is also true, I think, in a few very left-wing areas of the US). Forget about concealed carry.
There is also this:
"I am a 44-kosovo-albansk årig åbnede mand i dag flere fremmed ild mod i et indkøbscenter i Finland og dræbte fire."
That's from google translateion. I have no idea what did not get translated.
prisoner6
Thank you prisoner 6.
It is an odd web site, to say the least.
A 44-year-old Kosovo Albanian man opened fire today at a number of strangers in a shopping mall in Finland, killing four. Besides the four victims, police have found the man's ex-wife killed in her home, said Finnish police to TV2 News.
Three men and one woman has died in a bloody drama shot in a shopping center in southern Finland, said Finnish police, according to Ritzau.
A 44-year-old man opened around pm. 10 local time fire on customers and staff in the Sello shopping center, located in Finland's second largest city, Espoo. "
A total of four were killed in the mall. A man was among the second hit twice in the head and a woman was shot in the stomach, said Ritzau.
Police have also found the offender's ex-wife killed in her home, and the theory is, therefore, that have killed his ex-wife before he continues with his insane jealousy, revenge in the mall.
The 44-year-old Kosovar Albanians are known to the police and have previously been in their sights because husspetakler and illegal immigration, said a press release work for TV2 News,
Shopping center evacuated
A panic in the large shopping center, when the man at. 10 local time, began to shoot at random in the center's ground floor.
An elderly couple in the supermarket Prisma says, according to Ritzau that they heard a loud noise and saw a male employee in the electronics department lie on the floor.
Then went the perpetrator apparently passed on to the mall 2nd floor, where he fired several shots at random.
Part of the shopping center is blocked by, and people have been evacuated.
Police hunt offender still at large center.
prisoner6
Note: Photos included.
http://yle.fi/uutiset/news/2009/12/police_five_dead_following_shooting_rampage_1331619.html
“Police: Five Dead following Shooting Rampage”
published today 10:55 AM, updated today 02:11 PM
SNIPPET: “Four people were killed in a shooting at the Sello shopping mall in central Espoo on Thursday morning. A fifth victim, a woman, related to the case was found dead in a flat in Espoo. Police say they have identified the gunman who still remains at large.”
Thank you prisoner 6 for the post.
Not another looney Lutheran?
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