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Court orders three H-1B sites disabled
www.computerworld.com ^ | December 28, 2009 02:41 PM ET | Patrick Thibodeau

Posted on 12/28/2009 6:57:43 PM PST by meadsjn

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To: meadsjn

Thank you, I’m in the industry, and can tell you that along with a dear friend who kicked Intel around in a Supreme Court of California ruling and how companies (such as Intel) use H1-B to harass and discriminate against their older employees, we have also worked against this fraudulent devastating form of hiring to undercut wages and prevent Americans from working. I pray this judge gets a clue quickly and does not become an apparatus of government and friends of government’s ongoing corruption. If this was released into the wild, good, the light of day should shine on these abusive practices which verge illegal hiring practices, indentured servitude, if not slavery.


21 posted on 12/28/2009 8:07:21 PM PST by ntmxx (I am not so sure about this misdirection!)
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To: meadsjn
Since when does a County Superior Court judge rule on what is entirely a Constitutional issue?

I don't believe this story!

22 posted on 12/28/2009 8:10:38 PM PST by Publius6961 (Â…he's not America, he's an employee who hasn't risen to minimal expectations.)
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To: ClayinVA

Only a few things worse than a Red Diaper Doper Baby Judges, starting with unions such as SEIU and mob operations run out or corrupt state/actions like New Jeresy. While I have great faith in EFF, the ACLU has achieved their goals of infiltrating our nation’s seats of powers they may not have an interest here until politics change in 2012.


23 posted on 12/28/2009 8:22:23 PM PST by ntmxx (I am not so sure about this misdirection!)
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To: VicVega

What a moron criminal of a judge! He should have to depend on a VISA lottery for his job!


24 posted on 12/28/2009 8:53:13 PM PST by Amberdawn
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To: Amberdawn

No Kidding. Never heard of guestworkerfraud website, but have some interesting articles.

Maybe trying to expose companies that hire only Visa workers is anti-american in this new PC world.

Good for them.


25 posted on 12/28/2009 8:56:45 PM PST by VicVega (2010 Let only Real Conservatives win. Say good night John McCain.)
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To: meadsjn

So they didn’t think to use foreign registrars and servers? What kind of eye-tee people are they, anyway? ;-)


26 posted on 12/28/2009 9:10:23 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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To: ntmxx
"Not sure what this judge believes is the issue here, although from what I briefly read on the site, either the judge is afraid of free speech, truth, and facts or he’s a Red Diaper Doper Baby protecting the gates to hell from being offended. Liberalism is a Mental Disorder!"

...extensions of copyright law, "nation of contracts," open borders policies? Most lawyers are libertarians.


27 posted on 12/28/2009 9:17:46 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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To: CORedneck
"Now to change tangent, there was something mentioned that the financial class dislikes the engineering class, very true."

First, machinists, fitters, and the like, were displaced. Then...real engineers: the kind with the "P.E." after their names. Most of the real engineers were relegated to occasional consulting and unemployment. Most computer technologists of various sorts--especially most of the more education ones (software developers)--have been unemployed for some time.

Be more frugal but healthy. Avoid buying anything that you don't need, and become more self-sufficient each month by learning other, older technical skills. The worst is yet to come. And BTW, the Tech. Center is a funny place. Some of those offices further to the north are even more strange.


28 posted on 12/28/2009 9:27:42 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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To: familyop

Thanks, makes a bit more sense, yet since most employment is at will, and a contract as part of employment practices is a public issue, when one or both parties decides that the light of day is needed the courts should not hide the facts or terms to the public.


29 posted on 12/28/2009 9:40:00 PM PST by ntmxx (I am not so sure about this misdirection!)
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To: meadsjn

Sounds like more Liberal Globalism run amok....the H1-B Visa program is a fraud and a scam...a lot of them are used for non-tech jobs. And displacing US workers is never good in the long run.

H1-B Visa is more of that Economic Anti-Americanism....along with Free Trade, Open Borders, Illegal Aliens (and Amnesty)


30 posted on 12/28/2009 10:00:49 PM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all FReepers)
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To: meadsjn

It would seem on the surface that the judge’s actions should be viewed as hasty, in the form of pronouncing the particular websites as “guilty” merely on the accusations, and legal arguments of the plaintiffs, without the full case having been heard, to determine any valid claims and assess any particular remedies.

Even then, “libel” and such are “civil” offenses and even if the plaintiffs won their arguments, doing so would allow them to go after the defendants for (a) removal of “offending” material, (b) consent agreements to not publish such material in the future and damages for the past offenses. In none of those things should a state judge find grounds or authority to simply, judicially demand the websites be “taken off the air”.

The websites and their web-hosting service companies should deny the judge’s order, and force his ruling into review by higher courts.


31 posted on 12/28/2009 11:15:20 PM PST by Wuli
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“But he said the issue goes well beyond the agreement and involves threatening and racist comments against company officials, as well as ongoing allegations that it is engaging in illegal activities. “Apex has an outstanding reputation in the information technology field,” he said.”

Uh huh.
So. I’m guessing a whistleblower leaked some very telling docs. Which pissed off some other people, that said bad things about Apex.

“Apex said it “has had three consultants refuse to report for employment” as a result postings, according to legal documents.”

Gone into hiding eh?


32 posted on 12/28/2009 11:28:05 PM PST by moehoward
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To: ntmxx

Slashdot just picked it up this morning. So, it has hit a lot of IT people’s radar. I would say Apex now has a serious problem, much more than having one of their contracts online.


33 posted on 12/29/2009 10:52:36 AM PST by ClayinVA ("Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it")
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To: Wuli

I found out one of the reasons, Apex got this order, they just happened to be headquartered in Middlesex County New Jersey. Also, I think the defendants didn’t show except for a lawyer and is trying to hide his identity. Sounded like a default judgement deal mixed in with a non-technical Judge.


34 posted on 12/29/2009 10:58:07 AM PST by ClayinVA ("Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it")
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To: meadsjn

I live in Silicon Valley, California and when I go to the stores it seems that I am in New Dehli. It is just amazing to see just how many of them are pregnant and this will feed into the “anchor baby” scenario.


35 posted on 12/29/2009 11:01:35 AM PST by NY Attitude (Make love not war but be prepared for either.)
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To: ClayinVA

On the radar; cool.


36 posted on 12/29/2009 3:58:57 PM PST by ntmxx (I am not so sure about this misdirection!)
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